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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 09, 2000 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
NOW FLAME ME IF YOU WILL BUT IM WILLING TO BET A LARGE NUMBER OF YOU MOFOS ARE LYING ABOUT YOUR STRENGTH......BENCHING 400+ AT 17 AND 18 EVEN 19 ....GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK YOU WANNABE SUPERMAN.....GO READ THE COMIC BOOKS AND KEEP BELIEVEING THE LIES YOU CREATE. IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER KEEP DOING IT,WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER....LYING GETS YOU NOWHERE IN THE WEIGHT ROOM.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 09, 2000 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Steel Beast is saying what many of us are undoubtedly thinking.

This is why we need to go to Vegas and have an EF convention. Everyone who claims to be 6-5, 300 lean will have some explaining to do.

Matt

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Juicer56
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posted May 09, 2000 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
during the winter while i was bulking i was doing sets with 405 but i also almost tore my pec so technicaly i can't and im 18....adding on to previous post...look i dont know you guys and could care less to gain your respect over a damn computer but im telling you what i did, ive have been lifting for football since i was 14 and bodybuilding since i was 16 i got up to 295 on bench naturally and probaly more if i actually consumed more cals..i was always fat and can put on muscle pretty easily and i respect those of you who have been doing this for 3x longer than me but dont get on my case because i can push up a xxxlbs, this is why i no longer max and always use pre-exhaustion so i don't have those idiots in the gym asking hey how much you bench, i say i dont max...during the winter i got my nf pretty high and now that im leaning out im nowhere near as strong i can only do sets with 315 on bench if i even do it...im sure most of you who cant lift as much look better than me anyways i dont care about weight but more into symetry and muscle shape...also i will gladly go to that vegas thing if they ever get it going

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 09, 2000 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
DAVE DRAPER A PRO BODYBUILDER AND BIG MOFO NEVER MADE IT OVER 450 BENCH ...SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME ALL THAT CLAIM TO BENCH THESE POUNDAGES HAVE A CHEST CAPABLE OF GOING "CHEST TO CHEST" WITH HIM?

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 09, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
OH AND JUICER56 HOW CAN YOU ALMOST TORE YOUR PEC IM JUST CURIOUS.I ALWAYS THOUGHT ITS EITHER TORN OR NOT TORN

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Capt'n_Crunch
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posted May 09, 2000 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capt'n_Crunch   Click Here to Email Capt'n_Crunch     Edit/Delete Message
We could make our own EF Olympic powerlifting team with some of the numbers guys are throwing out there. Either we have some guys full of BS or we have some guys with no legs and midget arms....

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Prayin4Mass
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posted May 09, 2000 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prayin4Mass   Click Here to Email Prayin4Mass     Edit/Delete Message
I hope some of these are BS, because I'm 5'9" 183lbs and I can only bench 220...now I have only been lifting for a year but I thought I was doing ok beings I couldn't bench barely over 100 when I started.

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Prayin4Mass
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posted May 09, 2000 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prayin4Mass   Click Here to Email Prayin4Mass     Edit/Delete Message
Oh...and I am natural for at least another 6-8 months. (As you can tell from my bench!haha)

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SSMAN
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posted May 09, 2000 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message
I've been training for over 8 years and I have difficulty grunting out 3 reps at 335. How in the hell can someone who is 18 claim to bench 400+ pounds!?!?!? I went to high school with a juice freak. At age 18 he was HUGE and he couldn't press that!!

SSMAN

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scarface1
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posted May 09, 2000 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarface1   Click Here to Email scarface1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 72196367
I know I saw that post and did not want to post my bench which I thought was pretty good but these 15 year olds that bench 500 and squat 1000, and have only been lifting for 3weeks are really something.

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bad brains
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posted May 09, 2000 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad brains   Click Here to Email bad brains     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68109812
Hell yeah Bro, gotta BUMP this one......

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Ph4t
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posted May 09, 2000 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ph4t     Edit/Delete Message
my thoughts exactly.. bump

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delts
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posted May 09, 2000 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for delts   Click Here to Email delts     Edit/Delete Message
YEAH.....after that bimbo post.....the BS got deep huh bro?

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bluesy
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posted May 09, 2000 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesy   Click Here to Email bluesy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 13459214
im strong on the deadlift, but i cant bench with a bar because of my shoulder and im really bad at squat, because im not flexible in the foot, i was supposed to compete in a competition, but you bros know what happend if you read my post.

Bluesy

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Yoda
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posted May 09, 2000 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bluesy, whats wrong with your shoulder? If its bothering you have it fixed, I had problems with mine for years than someone suggested an orthopedic surgeon. He had to take the bone ends off the inner and outer, thus removing all the cartliage but no more pain and I'm benching 425 again.

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WILDTHINGURI
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posted May 09, 2000 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WILDTHINGURI   Click Here to Email WILDTHINGURI     Edit/Delete Message
I GOTTA BUMP THAT ONE THERE IS SOME BULL SHIT IN THESE STORIES.. WHY LIE ABOUT YOUR WEIGHT.. YOUR NOT IMPRESSING ANYONE.. BUT WHATEVER WHEN I WAS IN 8TH GRADE I WAS ONLY BENCHING 305 FOR REPS OF TEN AND SQUATING 550 BUT I DONT WANA BRAG.. .. HAHA.. PEACE BROS

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conan69
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posted May 09, 2000 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
bro i hit 405 for 2 when i was 20 i was on a crazy year long cycle (so i dont think it is impossible)

no i can only get 315 (but i dont bench anymore)

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FitnessChick
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posted May 09, 2000 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
i was thinking the same thing when i read some of those posts....see i was actually curious to see what people were doing cause my training partners(guys) were curious to see how they did compared to other guys(cause most in our gym suck) i figured the board would be a good place to ask, cause for all intents & purposes, everyone is anonymous other then a screenname....so i figured everyone could be honest

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ectomorph
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posted May 09, 2000 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
When I was 18 I couldn't bench 225. Now I get
385 for 3. That fact is what makes me proud, not ashamed.

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always02
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posted May 09, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for always02   Click Here to Email always02     Edit/Delete Message
i knew a guy in high school that could bench 375 and he was 17! of course it wasn't natural, but he did it.

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FitnessChick
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posted May 09, 2000 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
no digs to you ectomorph....i dont think evceryone is lying....

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Fish
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posted May 09, 2000 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
We could all post a pic on Conan's page and find out who is as big as they say.

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gearseeker
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posted May 09, 2000 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
I think some numbers are BS. Probably some old fat lady that gets off posting on this board.

Even at 220lbs 5'8" Im lucky to get a good set of 6 with 300lbs - on juice. My bench has always sucked but Ill squat against anyone my bodyweight!

I do have a freind that was able to bench 405 clean when he was 18. No BS - he just had a unreal amount of chest/shoulder/tri strength. He still cant squat for shit.

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E2
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posted May 09, 2000 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Yes i agree with you guys, i think a lot of the numbers are pure shite, or maybe people think that benching on a hammer strength counts.

Then we also have to think about form. How many of you are dropping the bar to your chest and pausing before pushing up? How far apart are you hands in relation to your shoulders, is back arching allowed, are you feet on or off the floor, are you legs allowed to move, are we wearing bench shirts.......etc.

If they can put up those weights then that's great, if not, what's the point in lying about your ability.

The most i've ever gotten was 420 for 4, now i've never really been one to do singles so i don't know my orm, and i certainly can't do that now.

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FitnessChick
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posted May 09, 2000 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
I agree E2 FORM IS EVERYTHING....

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debo
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posted May 09, 2000 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for debo     Edit/Delete Message
SHIT, IF U GO TO SCHOOL WERE I GO, I WOULD BE DAMNED IF U DO NOT SEE 18 OR 19 YEAR OLDS DO THIS SHIT U GUYS R CALLING UNREAL. COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS WERE U CAN FIND THESE GUYS. I WILL BE DAMNED IS WHAT U WILL SAY. IF U TRAIN YEAR ROUND FOR STRENGTH WHY WOULD'NT U BE STRONG, THEN THE JUICE? COME ON BE FOR REAL.

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45Plates
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posted May 09, 2000 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 45Plates   Click Here to Email 45Plates     Edit/Delete Message
Fuck, i'm lucky to get 45lbs for 8 reps....hehehehe, J/K. In all honesty Steel beast i have thought the same thing.

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krzysiu013
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posted May 09, 2000 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for krzysiu013   Click Here to Email krzysiu013     Edit/Delete Message
im 12 years old and can deadlifts 700 pounds.

NO BS!!!!!

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egoman
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posted May 09, 2000 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for egoman   Click Here to Email egoman     Edit/Delete Message
damn im glad im old,when i do 475 everybody cheers.it took longer than 2 or 3 years to do it too.no need to lie guys all things will come in time.keep bending the bar.

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Iron God
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posted May 09, 2000 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron God     Edit/Delete Message
Hey FitnessChick I think Delts is just called you a Bimbo. Why is it so many Bros on this board are scared of women or seem to put them down every chance they get I guess DELTS might need to focus on another (obviously lagging) part of his anatomy.

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Quadzilla43
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posted May 09, 2000 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla43     Edit/Delete Message
debo, i play college football for a school in the northeast and i see the way some guys lift. at a combine one guy got 225 for 26 reps, but he was bouncing the weight off his chest the whole way. and he wasnt penalized at all. thats how lifting in college is done. explosively, but if any of these guys went into a powerlifting comp, all those claiming a 420 bench wouldnt be able to successfully get 350.

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Vlad67
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posted May 09, 2000 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vlad67   Click Here to Email Vlad67     Edit/Delete Message
... pressing alot of weight is great for building ones ego....unfortunatly while you are building your ego you are wrecking your shoulders and elbows ....when i was younger my how much I could bench was all that mattered... rather than making real gains I was just finding new ways to cheat the weight up.... now ive got screws and staples in both shoulders.... five surgerys later i have found a big bench is not so important..... I dont date many girls that weigh over 315 so i dont really need the security that i could push them off of me if I had to....

..slow with perfect form will get you alot further in the long run...

VK

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bluesy
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posted May 09, 2000 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesy   Click Here to Email bluesy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 13459214
Yoda, right now im doing all i can to get my shoulder stronger, because the doctor said that if he should make that operation i had to pay alot more money than i can afford, and he thought that i should try and make it stronger and see what happens, his an old powerlifter, so he know what he talks about.

You guys are right, theres nothing like seing a guy benching big numbers, but dont pause at the bottom or lift his damm ass of the bench, he cant use it fore anything, he would be disqualified in � a second at a competition.

Bluesy

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tmm808
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posted May 09, 2000 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmm808     Edit/Delete Message
I know several guys who are 18 and 19 that bench over 400, unfortunately i am not one of them.

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Big Brother Val
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posted May 09, 2000 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
I've never cared about big #'s on a bench. Or any other exercise. To me... it's not if I can lift more than the next guy... it's if I look better. I'm not a weightlifter, or powerlifter. I'm a bodybuilder. There's a world of difference.

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Seitz
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posted May 09, 2000 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seitz   Click Here to Email Seitz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 32745054
here is a thought, they might think that because you can hold the bar up with 400lbs you must be able to bench it if you use the force. lol bad form doesn't = your new max

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criticalmass
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posted May 09, 2000 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for criticalmass   Click Here to Email criticalmass     Edit/Delete Message
What you boys seem to be forgetting is that these kids are not talking pounds but ounces.

To put this in perspective we have a amateur power lifter (heavyweight champ {regional})in my gym and he maxes at 440 bench 600 squat.

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big_bad_buff
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posted May 09, 2000 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_bad_buff   Click Here to Email big_bad_buff     Edit/Delete Message

i think some are BS, but some are not, the fact is, some people are good at benching and some arent, some people have short arms (ME), which helps alot. i hope no one thinks i'm full of shit, because i used be a powerlifter only in bench, after years of trying almost everything. you find out what makes you get stronger, and what doesnt, and working out at a college gym since you were 14 ( my dad works for the college, so i can workout for free )were theres mostly football players who only workout for stregnth & size, you can pick up some good pointers.

my point is, you can't really say anyting untill you see them benching, and they can't get 135 off the racks...lol

but there is always, and always will be the guys who are so full of shiot that it makes you laugh. the reason why they feel they have to lie? you got me.......

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POW
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posted May 09, 2000 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
LOL... Captn crunch.

I am just a head with one arm coming out the top, I weigh 15kg but can bench 200.

Amazing how alians can lean to bench...

POW

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oeffler
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posted May 09, 2000 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oeffler   Click Here to Email oeffler     Edit/Delete Message
Uh, yeah, Me to! I know this guy, who has a friend...that is the brother of this chick, who is giong out with a guy who knows someone who can bench,like, 450 lbs.

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Formula
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posted May 09, 2000 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Formula   Click Here to Email Formula     Edit/Delete Message
I disagree with most of you. I was a over 21 before I could bench my first Buick so 400lbs at 18 is average. Sniff, Sniff it that sarcasm I smell? Hey FC, they thought to impress you with their 6'5" frame and 3% BF at just over 300lbs.

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Big Buck
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posted May 09, 2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Buck   Click Here to Email Big Buck     Edit/Delete Message
I turned 20 last month. I'm 5'11" 220lbs 9% bodyfat. bench: 365, squat: 600. Haven't deadlifted since high school. When I was 18 and powerlifting, bench: 275, squat: 500. Alot of these guys are straight bullshiting us. Why lie? I say maybe 2 guys when I was in high school powerlifting hit 405 on bench, but they were definetly on something!!!!

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roadruler
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posted May 09, 2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadruler   Click Here to Email roadruler     Edit/Delete Message
Steelbeast that was the same thing i was saying, there is no way in hell that, that many people at ages 18, 19, even older than that can do that amount of weight on bench, squat or deadlift. I not saying everyone that posted on that question lied, but i think about half did. Maybe i would believe it if they did tons of gear and years of good training and dieting. We're not here to prove anything to anyone, were just here to help each other out. Keep it real.

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POW
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posted May 09, 2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
Well I think your all full of crap.

As soon as I was born I walked into a local gym still covered in slime and blood and benched 250 for 10, not bad as my hands were as slippery as hell and the gym had no chalk.

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studcj
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posted May 09, 2000 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Im kinda taking this one as a personal shot and Im gonna prove you wrong. I am 18 and I did squat 545 for reps. My friend does actually bench 400. I will get the pics from our next meet of me squatting 600 and him benching 400. They will be posted by the end of May. The meet is may21. I have busted my ass ever sice eighth grade, and so has he. We both have never juiced.

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POW
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posted May 09, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for POW   Click Here to Email POW     Edit/Delete Message
On contradicting myself it is possible and if people can proove it, let them.

POW

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juiced-up
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posted May 09, 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juiced-up   Click Here to Email juiced-up     Edit/Delete Message
I work out with two other guys who are good friends, i am 165lbs and bench 315 for one rep, my other friend is 170lbs and benches 330 for one rep, and last my other friend doesn't look very big if you saw him 145lbs put up 300 the other day ---i couldn't believe that

we are all 19 years old

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studcj
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posted May 09, 2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
And just so you know..we will both be competing at the 220lb class. I can out squat him but he kills me at bench (I do 300).
These numbers are not unrealistic, but they are uncommon. We also get tested with a lie detector so you guys know that we have never juiced.

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studcj
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posted May 09, 2000 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Im sorry "juiced up" but I don't believe you untill you can post some pics. And I know people aren't gonna believe me untill I post mine.

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lexicon
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posted May 09, 2000 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
This type of a post is worthless and belongs in the chat room. We should be dealing with facts here, stuff like this is only going to cause arguing as there is no way to prove this type of stuff. Anybody can say they are huge and drive Lamborghinis and have an F-16 in their yard and have 90 beautiful women who love them. Don't get caught up in this stuff as it's only for fun.

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Juicer56
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posted May 09, 2000 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
by saying almost tore my pec, on one chest day at the gym i started to hit a set at 405 and when i got to my 7th rep i felt a little pop in my upper pec by my shoulder so i racked the weight and iced it a massaged it, took it easy on my chest for the next two weeks and was ok but i had some bad strech marks, i think the amount of gear and food i was putting away could get anybody pretty strong

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athlete21m
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posted May 09, 2000 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athlete21m     Edit/Delete Message
Hey it is possible my budy at 19 was hitting 420 i just hit 410 last spring at 20 but im also 6'5 290 not lean but big. Its possible though high school i was 380 lbs 18 yrs old, playing football at div 1 400 is decent.

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Steak Helmet
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posted May 09, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steak Helmet   Click Here to Email Steak Helmet     Edit/Delete Message
HEY...did you all notice the further down the board the bigger people got and the more they lifted. The dreams kept getting bigger and better as time went on...OOO look he benched 450...OOOOO I better say I did 500......OOOO he did 500 I did 5000. The heads and dreams keep on getting bigger.

FUNNY SHIT PEOPLE

POST A PICTURE IF YOU ARE 300lbs and lean.

I have never seen you in a magazine if you are making claims like that.

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Steak Helmet
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posted May 09, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steak Helmet   Click Here to Email Steak Helmet     Edit/Delete Message
HEY...did you all notice the further down the board the bigger people got and the more they lifted. The dreams kept getting bigger and better as time went on...OOO look he benched 450...OOOOO I better say I did 500......OOOO he did 500 I did 5000. The heads and dreams keep on getting bigger.

FUNNY SHIT PEOPLE

POST A PICTURE IF YOU ARE 300lbs and lean.

I have never seen you in a magazine if you are making claims like that.

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hardrock
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posted May 09, 2000 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hardrock   Click Here to Email hardrock     Edit/Delete Message
damn, looks like I should've played more football!

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Juicer56
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posted May 09, 2000 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
look ill tey to get a decent pic of me taken and send to conan's page..there is another guy(newbie) on the board who seen me do this so you can ask him if you even care...his handle is greg

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rainhorn
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posted May 09, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainhorn   Click Here to Email rainhorn     Edit/Delete Message
YO BROS 1
i think that maybe the beastis right and
some of u are not telling the exact truth.
GET BIG.

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Slim Whitman
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posted May 09, 2000 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slim Whitman     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry guys, but I'm one of the non-believers too!!! I'll believe it when I see it, and that doesn't mean a picture either!!!

Slim

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posted May 09, 2000 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Komo   Click Here to Email Komo     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah! Some of those lifts were definately unreal....

Bump!

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Grip
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posted May 09, 2000 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Grip     Edit/Delete Message
Yo studcj- where is this meet? I believe your numbers because I see it all the time. But....a very important fact- your big benching buddy is wearing a bench shirt- right? 400 with a shirt equates to about 335-360 raw...right dog? I do 600 with a shirt...535 with out. There is a big differrence. By the way- what federation drug tests with a polygraph anyway??? None that I have competed in. One time in an unsanctioned meet.

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Iron God
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posted May 09, 2000 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron God     Edit/Delete Message
At 5'10 248 18% bf I can bench 425lbs for 1 clean rep Squat 550 and Dead 600 even I thought that was pretty good obviously I was wrong the reason for the post to begin with was so my training partner (fitness chick)and myself could get a gauge as to our personal strength level compared to other's since our Gym is filled with pussies and would be 500lbs bench super heroes if not for their shoulder injuries who don't squat or deadlight because they read it's bad for them. We figured under the cover of anonymity people would tell the truth, sad to say that didn't happen.

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ItalianSweetness
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posted May 09, 2000 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ItalianSweetness     Edit/Delete Message
Some is real and some is bullshit. Cmon their is a few exceptions out there with great genetics. I sware to u guys that my dad got to 275 naturally at 6'4 . He was rock solid and had pictures of his muscle. He was in jail for 20 years and his bench skyrocketed to 525 at his peak.NOw take that.....is that normal? No.True?yes

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Juicer56
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posted May 09, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
i can't understand why it is so hard to believe that someone 18 can put up over 400....im ashamed to post this but maybe this will show you why i could do it this last winter...i started my cycle at 5'10 240 12% and my cycle went as follows 1500mg sus/wk for 4 weeks, 100mg prop/day for first 2 weeks...75mg dbol/day for next 2 weeks then 1000mg sus/wk for weeks 5-6 and 400mg deca/wk...by this time i had gotten my weight up to 283 at 16.3%bf and switched to t200 for the next 4 weeks at 1200mg/wk + 400mg deca/wk and only deca for the last 2

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TOYOTA136
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posted May 09, 2000 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TOYOTA136   Click Here to Email TOYOTA136     Edit/Delete Message
U all need to deflate ur heads!!!!!! I'm a fat fu%^er 6'1" 240 and 27%bf... But I did 345 today at the Police Academy and I am 21 yrs. old.. Yes it is possible to be strong and be young... but does it really matter.. I could kick the f*^k out of alot of people who are stronge than me.. u see college football players benching 400-500 every day.. G-damn Warren Sapp benched 475 in his sophomore year.. he was only 20... the thing is that everyone trys to inflate their ego and yes... stretch the truth at times.. but it isnt out of the question..

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Monster
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posted May 09, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Heh heh, this is pretty funny, but I have to agree...
However, when I answered the original post, I was talking about a 1 rep max. I can 1 rep 405lbs with good (not great) form, and almost the same incline. But then again, Im almost 30 years old and have been at it a long time.
Now, I bullshit you not, there is a guy at the gym I go to now (he's one of 3 people who I believe are competative powerlifters), who Ive seen put up 500lbs. (with a shirt). I think a lot of it depends on training goals. These guys look like shit, but they can lift BIG! Ive never been much of one to notice my poundages (except my bodyweight poundages... , so Ive never focused on training for strength. Its naturally came as you would expect from using bigger poundages, but Ive never really trained for it. Ive seen these guys train for strength, and its a whole different ballgame (or is it "irongame").
But 17 or 18 years old hitting 400lbs??? I dont know, I guess it could be, but I doubt it... ah well, fuck it...

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BillyBadAss
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posted May 09, 2000 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillyBadAss   Click Here to Email BillyBadAss     Edit/Delete Message
HEY HEY HEY......
DON'T FLAME US YOUNGER GUYS.
I'M 18, AND I ONLY BENCHED 320 NATURALLY, UNTILL LAST WEEK WHEN I STARTED MY FIRST CYCLE.
405?!?!?!?!!!
MAYBE IN A YEAR OR TWO.

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abc-29
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posted May 09, 2000 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abc-29     Edit/Delete Message
anthony clark benched over 600 as a teenager.

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Capt'n_Crunch
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posted May 09, 2000 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capt'n_Crunch   Click Here to Email Capt'n_Crunch     Edit/Delete Message
Hey dont get me wrong, Ive seen some guys do some impressive poundages for their size, Ive got a friend 5'11 190 and benches 335 for 2 reps and hes 17 years old, Ive got another friend who is 5'6 130lbs and benches 335 for 1 rep......and when I was in high school we had several guys who benched over 400 lbs. so yes I do believe that some of these guys just may be telling the truth and yes 400lbs for high school is unlikely but not impossible...... one of those guys went to play football(defensive end) for McNeese State U. but ended up quiting..... anyways for you guys that we are doubting but who are being truthful then sorry about it, otherwise @#$$%%^# you

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BillSA
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posted May 09, 2000 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BillSA   Click Here to Email BillSA     Edit/Delete Message
Hey i dont think that's it's all bullshit i got a friend who can bench 400 but then again he is 32 yrs old 286 lbs and has been training for 14 years and using juice for 12 the man is MASSIVE and also the the guy who inspired me to start bodybuilding and AS.
PEACE

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delts
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posted May 09, 2000 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for delts   Click Here to Email delts     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry Fitness Chick, I wasn't "hackin" on you personally......I just feel that "how much you can bench" is so generic, and is usually the first thing someone asks you when you tell them you "pump iron". I have alot of buddies that can "jack" a whole lot more weight than I can. But I "look" a great deal better than they do, and like some of the "veterans" on here have pointed out, many of them no longer bench either. Not a flame-intended reply.

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studcj
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posted May 09, 2000 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
grip,
the meet is in colorado. E-me if you want more info, and yes my friend does wear a bench shirt, but he can do 380 without. He did not get it at the last meet cause his damn bench shirt ripped. Craziest thing I've ever seen at a meet. the meet is the state high school meet. I don't know what company is giving the test. I'm gonna out squat all those mofos! just got back from the gym, and I repped 560 for 3. Next week I'll go 585 for 2, then the meet is the following week.
I will try to get someone to video tape the meet too, so I can send a copy to all you non-believers. I do agree that some of the poundages have to be fake though, and I don't blame you if you don't believe me. Hell, I take it as a compliment that some guys think that my squat is impossible at this age.

sorry for the rant, this topic got me all fired up

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Twisted_Steel
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posted May 09, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Blah Blah, there is a 21 yearold fat tub of lard in excess of 380 lbs. So he benches 405 for 6. WOWOWOWOW. Isnt that impressive. I have seen plenty of fat shapeless football players put up big numbers. Big deal right. They cant take their shirts off in public, but they can bench 400 lbs. When you guys are on stage hitting that side chest, those judges arnt gonna give a flip about what weight you used to build your chest. Arnold's, working weight rarely exceeded 315lbs. HMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Twisted_Steel
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posted May 09, 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message
Continuing the Rant:

But, dont you also notice that its only the pencil necks that begin a conversation with "So, uhhhh what do you bench". And as for Anthony Clark, who in their right mind would want to look like that disgusting amorphous blob of shit.?

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BigCatratcho
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posted May 09, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
dissing someone for a bench shirt?

f*ck man, anyone benching over four hundred in a bench shirt is still pretty goddam strong.

I've been to plenty of powerlifting meets where some stud teenager was pressing over threee hundred pounds. Just because none of the kids in your gym are that strong doesn't mean they don't exist.

Personally, I'd rather impress someone by being massive, than telling them how much I can bench press. And speaking of weight totals, I'd rather talk about my squat or deadlift, just because the numbers are so much higher.

but I babble and this threead is real f*ckin old.

But before I go let;s give it up to the Big Catratcho and his 135 for twelve reps!!! I'm not kidding just this MORNING, WITHOUT A SHIRT!!!!!!

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CornFed
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posted May 09, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CornFed   Click Here to Email CornFed     Edit/Delete Message
good stuff guys.....some of you had some pretty funny things to say. I agree though f@#ck the poundage it is all how you look and how you feel. and I feel good and I look good and I max out 1 rep at 305.

Sorry ladies I already have a girlfriend

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eagledude
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posted May 09, 2000 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
there is a kid on my football team who is a freshamn and all natural and benches 290, no shit

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Natural Wonder
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posted May 09, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural Wonder   Click Here to Email Natural Wonder     Edit/Delete Message
There a good thing that comes out of this:
Y'all know that I'm not bullshitting when I write "I benched 235lbs today"

Peace kids.......No one impresses me unless I see it. Post a video file!!!! if you wanna prove yourself

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gearface
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posted May 09, 2000 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Straight up!

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delts
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posted May 09, 2000 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for delts   Click Here to Email delts     Edit/Delete Message
Big Catracho and Twisted_Steel hit the nail on the head........who gives a shit what your bench is.......what do you LOOK LIKE????

delts

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athlete21m
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posted May 09, 2000 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athlete21m     Edit/Delete Message
Damn excuse my mistake for the record im 290 lbs currently 18 % bf, in hs i was hitting 380 jeez, weighed about 270 then, just had to back myself wasnt a 380 lb blob. And i agree who gives a shit it is about how u look, until u need to use the power on some big fuck in the club or on the field for that matter.

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tucker
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posted May 09, 2000 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tucker     Edit/Delete Message
i live in alabama and they have a big weight meet for the area high schools annually.i HAVE seen 18 year olds bench 405.i also dont care if you believe me,im just saying what i saw,alot went on to play for major colleges.hell i am a lot bigger and older than the kids at the meet,and cant even touch 405!

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Iron God
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posted May 10, 2000 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iron God     Edit/Delete Message
I guess this all depends on your reason for training to me aesthetics is only 1/2 the picture, form without function is nothing! Few things are more impressive then a man or women who is both aesthetic and physically powerful it shows their commitment and mental discipline to continually push themselves beyond there physical and mental limits, unlike some juiced up pump artist who loses half his strength and 10-20% of his body mass after a cycle.

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Shizzy Bizzy
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posted May 10, 2000 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizzy Bizzy   Click Here to Email Shizzy Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 117?
im 5'6" ... 179 lbs ... & juicin & I DOUBT alot of these geeks are telling the truth... especially that 1 dope that weighed less than me & was saying he benched like 270 or something... LIARS! You are lucky if u can max out your own bodyweight & all u idiots that say "yeah, im 5'9"... 195 lbs... i bench 360 for 3 reps... all i have to say is HAHAHA! Keep the funny's comin in, i love to hear idiots make fools of themselves! peace

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FitnessChick
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posted May 10, 2000 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
hey delts, no offense taken....i was asking the question for the reason iron god states in one of his posts here....to gauge our strength....not really to brag....that was to catch peoples attention & to get them to post....read all of irongods response...he sums up my thoughts best//

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Jay-T
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posted May 10, 2000 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-T   Click Here to Email Jay-T     Edit/Delete Message
hey no kidding that all this is mostly b/s
because i am 18 and am 6'2 220 and can do at the most 250lbs on the bench. Compared to almost everyone in my school this is probably the best or near the best bench anyone can do.I have a friend who can do 290 and he is the only one i know that can do that kinda weight at 17.

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 10, 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
Normally I would not respond to this thread but it appears that there is a lot of confusion with respect to size and strength.

1. neuromuscular adaptation from low rep explosive training will increase your lift poundages with little or no concurrent size increase.

2. joint angles and joint stability make a large difference in the amount of wieght that can be lifted.

3. some peoples nervous system develops and adapts quicker than others thus it is very possible for someone 17 or 18 to be pushing 400+ pounds.

4. a little personal note at 5'11 148lbs and 17 years old I bench pressed 305- with a pause- I will have to add that I had recently had knee surgury and that I was about 15-20lbs below my natural weight. A little note on the effects of heavy benching I still have shoulder problems, though only a little, from all that heavy lifting for my size and frame.

5. I know a natural 23 year old who competes totally naturally at 5'10 198 and press 460. but he has pretty high natural test and dht levels which are apparent from his receding hair and hair laden body.

6. the main problem that people have here is that they confuse muscular adaptation- size with neuromuscular adaptation- strength. these may come together or they may not- I know little guy that look like rails that can bench twice or more thier body wieght and I know huge guys that have trouble 1 and 1/2 times thier body weight.

7. all that being said, this is a anonymous forum and I believe that some of the people here consistently lie about their strength and weight- but who cares its not really relevant- you should compare your size/strength with your own progress/goals taking into account your genetic gifts as well as limitations.

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FlexB
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posted May 10, 2000 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FlexB   Click Here to Email FlexB     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71392430
When your on stage......the judges could give a rats ass how much you can bench!! I'm pretty strong, but I lift for the stage and for the looks. Call me vane, but that's just me.

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alwaysniceguy
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posted May 10, 2000 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alwaysniceguy   Click Here to Email alwaysniceguy     Edit/Delete Message
here is my .02

i did 300 at age 16.

my old man was in the Corps. and always made me do pushups when i ran my mouth, which was very often.

i too started lifting in the 8th grade, for football.

I broke my rt. shoulder playing ball and after 1 yr i was back at 300. then had the screws removed and took another 4 months to get back to 300.

now, after doing a few cycles, Iam doing 345 for 1 at the end of my bench routine. it hasnt moved up for 4 months, but i have been dry for that long too.

i have done 2 cycles, started last Sept. then did one in dec/jan.

i squated 405 for 6 at age 17, and now, at age 26, i have trouble getting more than 2. of course i have been through two acl surgeries and a broken rt. femur. all courtesy from football. hehe.

i know its possible, but I totally AGREE. Fellas, get your shovels out, too much BS in here.

I know its possible, very possible, but not this likely, at least with like 80% doing 400+.

I agree with the last few posts, how you look is just as important, if not more important.

I have had the same stretch marks for the last 10 yrs. only that that has changed is that i now have hair on my chest that I dont want. where as I used to rub pepper on my bald ass chest to grow hair, LOL.

keep it real dogs, we are all here to grow.

NICE

this is me in Sept. at 170 lbs. i had just finished boxing at 160lbs-was in the 165 class. i started nor50 for 9 wks, did one bottle.

this is the b4 pic http://www.geocities.com/localsuperhero/brianpool.jpg

me after the deca, http://www.geocities.com/localsuperhero/mostmuscular.jpg

this is me in Feb, after doing Sust.250 @500 per wk for 10wks.

me at 225 and 12% bf http://www.geocities.com/localsuperhero/mostmuscular3.jpg

now im at 205, been dry for 4 months and am at 9%bf.
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MP5
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posted May 10, 2000 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MP5   Click Here to Email MP5     Edit/Delete Message
Nice photos, gotta love what juice does for your traps! Oh, I am working out at a college, and most of the guys in the gym are stuck at the 250# range for bench. Hardly do I see anyone rep 315, most people are full of shit. Hell, i have had friends lie to me then we work out and you get the "I am having a bad day", yeah right, my bad days don't make my lifts drop 50#

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studcj
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posted May 10, 2000 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
NICE PICS! Those look like great gains. How long did it take for all that?

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Thick dog
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posted May 12, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Lifting has a lot to do with fiber types. If you have a lot of fast twitch fibers, you can usually lift a lot. I only have 16 inch arms and can bench 405 on a good day and get 315 for about 9-10 reps. I am 6'0 200 lbs. Of course, I tell people I can bench about 425. You should automatically subtract 20 lbs when someone tells you what they lift.

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Yoda
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posted May 12, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
I hate to keep this going because its already been run into the ground but I have to say I agree with Macrophage69alpha!!! I've been training longer than some of the guys on this board have been breathing and I see it all the time, depends on muscle types, tendon strengths, length of limbs, etc. Also, if you're training with higher reps (10-15), your not going to build the same strength as someone training in the 5-10 rep range. If you don't have a big bench but look good be proud of that, but don't dog someone because their goals don't match yours. BTW, you can be both strong and big, think DORIAN YATES!!!!!

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