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Author | Topic: Carbs...yay or nay? |
blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 301) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hey guys, I heard that carbs are bad when you are trying to become more shredded and then I also heard that you need a certain amount. SO help me out here, I just am looking to tone up in my stomach b/c i am rock solid everywhere else. I have been doing crazy cardio, so please don't tell me thats what i need. I wanna know if I need to completely drop carbs or not and i need replacement suggestions if yes. I am female, 5'8, 115lbs, dunno bf, thanks! And just so you guys know, I originally had this posted on the diet board but this board has more traffic so i moved it...
[This message has been edited by blackhaus1 (edited May 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
BROCK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 86) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() YOU NEED A LOT OF CARBS ESPECIALLY WHEN DOING HEAVY CARDIO, DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH IN RESERVE. IF YOU CAN FIND A DRINK CALLED CARBO PUMP THEY KICK ASS. LIME IS THE BEST FLAVOR; SO LOAD UP DURING EXCERCISE AND AFTER. IP: Logged |
MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 701) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blackhaus do some cardio. Yes you do need some carbs. If you cut too low you will have absolutely no energy, and you won't be able to do the "crazy cardio" you are doing now. Try to decrease slowly and see how you feel. In general, sudden, drastic changes to your diet are not advisable. Matt IP: Logged |
StoneColdGold Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I have to disagree with the posts I keep seeing saying you will "have no energy" without carbs. My experience has been very different. I've been following a ketogenic diet off and on for a few months. When I first started i felt tired and irritable. But once my body adjusted, I felt great. I was doing 1.5hrs of cardio a day, plus workouts, while using Winstrol V. I had (and still have) plenty of energy while eating no carbs. In fact, it is on the occasions that I decide to take a day or two for carb loading that I feel tired and shitty. Just thought I'd throw my experience out there... ------------------ IP: Logged |
Mr H Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Have oatmeal for breakfast and do cardio right after that, that's what I've been doing and it seems to be working. Of course breakfast and a protein bar are all I eat each day.....ahhh, hoping I dont die before I start my cycle ;-) ![]() IP: Logged |
Flex Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() When leaning up before my next cycle, i have had great luck with medium to low carbs...I compensate for the energy loss by utilizing my good friend ECA...my .02. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Primo_man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I agree with Stonecold, after your body adjusts to a ketogenic diet it's smooth sailing. You'll also keep more muscle and loose fat more quickly. Try it for yourself and see. I'd recomend a cyclic ketogenic diet though, like Bodyopus, it's the shit!! IP: Logged |
bluesy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() stonecold are so right, i love that diet, you just ahev to get used to it, give it a try for 6 weeks and see how you are feeling, if it good, then maybe take a short brake 2-3 weeks, and go for it bigtime Bluesy IP: Logged |
roadruler Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No carb diet, are you guys crazy, you could really fuck yourself up doing that, not worth it. There are plenty of other ways to diet that will work than doing that. [This message has been edited by roadruler (edited May 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 477) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() stone cold! CAN YOU POST THE ketogenic diet? ------------------ IP: Logged |
fourhundred Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 gram of carb holds 2.5 grams of water calculate your need from this explanation IP: Logged |
StoneColdGold Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Matty, what exactly do you want me to post? The diet is simply as follows: Keep your carb intake below 20g per day, and eat as much protein and fat as you want. Red meat will be your staple here. Go pick up some "Ketostix" from a drug store. Start testing you urine twice a day around you second or third day of the diet. By day four or five, you should see the indicator on the ketostix turing pink or purple. As long as your urine keeps turning the stix color, you are in ketosis. I stayed in ketosis (that is, ate less than 20g of carbs) for basically two months straight beforing taking a break from the diet. I took a two-week break, then went back on the diet. Since then, I've taken three or four "carb-up" days in the last month and a half or so. During this time, I have gone from 270+ lbs to 240 lbs. Perhaps 5-7 lbs of that loss was muscle, but not a bad ratio when you consider it. I was huge and strong, but needed to lose lots of fat, and thats what I did. The diet is damn hard at first. It took me three tries to break the one week barrier. But once my body adjusted, it was a piece of cake (no pun intended!). It's just second nature now. Incedentally, I am going to begin taking one carb-loading day per week, now that I am at my goal weight. But I wouldn't reccomend this at first. Stay in ketosis the whole time until you get you weight to where you want it, then start experimenting a little. If you have any other specific questions, just ask me. Good luck! ------------------ IP: Logged |
bluesy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() well my experience is that if you want to keep the beef on the body and maybe build a bit extra then go with 7 days carb free and 2 days all the shity carbs you can eat with some protein. when i do that i still loose fat, but allso builds muscle, and i feel strong on this diet, my deadlift is usualy 15-20kg heavyer than on a normal diet, but beware you might fail a drugtesting, a friend of min did when he was on that diet uptil the day ha had to compete (not the reason i failed my drugtest, that i told about) Bluesy IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 477) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() thanks bro!!! sounds like i woould feel pretty weak and tired all the time, maybe ill give it a shot... ------------------ IP: Logged |
Doc Ponch Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Blackhaus, I don't know where some of these answers are coming from, but: Do not have oatmeal before your cardio. If you can get your cardio done in the morning before you eat anything, you'll burn a greater percentage of fat calories than otherwise. A cup of coffee or E/C/A an hour prior will help out also. Low or no carbs are going to be required if you're already somewhat lean. I also am a big fan of ketogenic diets. They've worked great for me, however, most people go low carbs and up the protein to help prevent muscle loss. On low carbs, you'll be tired and irritable and have no energy, but the fat will come off if you control your calories. Contrary to popular belief, keto diets are very safe. They were originally used on children with epilepsy to control seizures in the 20's or 30's. Studies were done with patients staying on the diets for up to 1 year with no problems. Besides, while there are essential fatty and amino acids, there's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate! Something to think about for you keto critics. The other benefit of a keto diet for you would be that it will help you get rid of lower body fat, which on women is the last to go. Women are genetically programed to hold a certain amount of fat in the lower body as an evolutionary development to help insure enough calories for child development when food might have been scarce. The keto diet helps upregulate (or down regulate, I don't remember) receptors in these special fat cells which allows them to release their fatty acids, thus shrinking them in size. Either way, you'll have to cut the carbs or you won't lose those last few pounds. Anyone who has great insulin sensitivity, a high metabolism, and can get cut on high carbs shouldn't have been fat in the first place. The Doctor IP: Logged |
blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 301) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Bump cause i want more opinions ------------------ IP: Logged |
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