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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 07, 2000 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
I had an idea for a cutting cycle in which I would use a short and quick acting AS such as d-bol or test prop ONLY during the carb up phase of a ketogenic diet (i.e. the weekend). Since glycogen supercompensation is said to be anabolic to some degree, adding the AS for increased protein synthesis should be of some benefit as far as at least maintaining muscle mass. Also, because of the high insulin sensitivity during this period, it may be possible to have a synergistic effect with insulin to boost anabolism even further. Is this something worth trying?

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 07, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
What gives??? There has been many a complaint lately that all the posts are totally stupid or just the same old questions. So I post something that I believe might make for some interesting discussion and I get no responses. If I posted a 10 week winny and primo cutting cycle I would have had 10 responses by now. I want to bounce these ideas off you guys/girls even if they are out to lunch. Flame me if you must, just don't make me feel so damn alone!

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matty
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posted May 07, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
i hear ya bro!! im not too familar w the keto diet but sounds pretty solid, why d-=bol again?

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 07, 2000 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
I just figured it may have to be an oral to get into your system quick and it would have to be a fairly strong drug to have much of an effect (if any in such a short period of time). Winny and primo tabs would be too weak I think, and anadrol just kinda scares me a bit. I pretend that anadrol is much more dangerous and tell myself that it is for the hardcore guys who don't give a shit about their health. Hehehe. I like playing mind games with myself.

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runner
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posted May 08, 2000 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for runner   Click Here to Email runner     Edit/Delete Message
sorry...don't have the science background to answer your question.

plus, words like synthesis, supercompensation and synergistic have left most of the board scratching their heads

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E2
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posted May 08, 2000 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Sounds like a good idea, but you'd have to use something very fast acting, as you said dbol but i would go with test suspension not prop.

It seems to me that this would work out, when you're carbing up you're taking yourself out of lyposis and putting youself into an anabolic state, now if you're taking a lot of carbs and have a resulting insulin peaks that you maintain throughout the day then this should work out well. However watch what you eat, as i'm assuming that your insuling spikes will be very high as you've not been taking in carbs during the week, right?? So there is as well the potential to put on fat.

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Primo_man
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posted May 08, 2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds good, and if you wanted to aviod test supression you could just stick to the orals and take a dose upon rising and then about 4-5 hours later. This will aviod messing with the natural test production that occurs at night. You could take up to about 40-50mg a day (in the 2 doses) with out any supression. If you added the suspension, however, you might have some troubles with test shut down, I'm not sure of the half live of suspension, but the orals are out in a couple of hours. Hope this helps.

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