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 clen & thyroid problems
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 208) |
posted May 06, 2000 09:58 PM
 
My training partner has a thyroid problem, & no matter how much she busts her ass in the gym, how well she eats, & how much cardio she does, she cannot lose all the fat she wants due to a hypo-active thyroid....she wants to take clen...does anyone know if its safe for her to do, and if so how much she should take( can it be a regular dose or should it be lower)....any help is much appreciated....  IP: Logged |
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quadster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 32) |
posted May 06, 2000 10:02 PM
clen does not interfere with thyroid as t3 t4 ect ephedrene can so make sure ur clen is real first ie spiropent doses should be taken all at once first thing in the morning u know when its working as u shake like a parkensons deases victom IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 458) |
posted May 06, 2000 10:03 PM
has she been diagnosed with a thyroid problem? if so she could probably get t4 or t3 from her doctor to help speed her metabolism. as for clen im not sure. but at least with some prescribed t3 or t4 she could get her metabolism to baseline and work from there. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 793) |
posted May 06, 2000 10:05 PM
Well my first question would be..if she has a problem..why not get meds prescribed?? Clen my work very well for her. Most dosages run into the 100mcg range...thats I what Im on anyhow..and what most of all people I know run. However..some peoples tolerances are different. If she is to do this..have her start with 20mcg and pyramid up to find her personal tolerance..i.e..shaky hands..sweating..etc. t3 is another suggestion but she could put herself at much bigger danger of shutting her thyroid down permamnately with it, as opposed to clen. Runt the clen 1 week on and one off..and eca inbetween... Later, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted May 06, 2000 11:16 PM
first, did she have the right blood tests including a TRH test? many people are borderline or hypo but only a TRH will confirm it The first thing to do is take a 5 day average of her waking temperature; if it is below 97.8 good chance she is hypo DR. Ronald Hoffman in NYC is excellent in diagnosing hypo-thyroid and will prescribe Armour or Cytomel (he prefers Armour because people have less reactions to it It could also be her diet, if her carbs are too low she can have adequate T4 levels but no ATP to facilitate its transport into the liver for conversion to T3 CLEN will speed her metabolism for 2-4 weeks then it dies off because the body realises its not suppossed to be 100+ degrees; it actually lowers the production of the 5 deiodinase enzyme which is responsible for converting T4 to T3 cycling clen 2 weeks on & 2-4 weeks off may help, also a drug called zaditen (sp?) will upregulate the beta receptors but it will increase hunger Start clen a 20 mcg increase to tolerance or her BP hits 140/90 personally I would use a nor-ephedrine/yohimbe/caffeine stack and if I want to get really ripped add a week of DNP. 'cosequences, shmonsequences- as long as I'm rich"- Daffy Duck
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 208) |
posted May 07, 2000 10:21 AM
she has been diagnosed by a dr. with a thyroid problem....and she takes medication for it, however I am not sure what....I will have to find out...but in the meantime I want to know if the clen is okay to take for someone with a thyroid prob....from what i have read so far i dont see it hurting... IP: Logged |
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Monster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted May 07, 2000 07:37 PM
It wont be a problem. Clen is a beta 2 agonist, and a CNS stimulant. It increases metabolism to a small degree and has a kind of thermogenic effect. If she is on throid meds again, she is most likely on T4 (synthroid). For some reason doctors seem to prescribe T4 to women, and T3 to moen (unless the person has had their thyroid removed, then it has to be T4)... IP: Logged |
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 208) |
posted May 09, 2000 01:40 PM
thanks monster...i spoke to her & she is on leboxyl...synthyroid...a synthetic hormone....your info is greatly appreciated! IP: Logged |
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