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Brutis
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
Any of you guys heard of the new AndroGel that is coming out this summer? We're talking about a new rub on AS that delivers up to 100 mg Testosterone DAILY!! And lasts for 24 hours. Available by perscription only from your Dr. or friendly neighborhood connection. This stuff is going to revolutionize bodybuilding as you now know it. If you want to know more post, and I'll share what I know.

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denmaur
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denmaur   Click Here to Email denmaur     Edit/Delete Message
Et Tu Brut?

I've been looking for info on the gel too and no one else I ask seems to know or care. Other than the magazine articles I haven't found anything about it.
What do you have?

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MattTheSkywalker
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone else have a comment on this?

Matt

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bstrong
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bstrong   Click Here to Email bstrong     Edit/Delete Message
if it is as good as the androderm shit, the only people that would enjoy using it would be old dudes with no natural test.

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Brutis
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
Here's the deal. Unimed got the drug through FDA and will have it out by mid summer. You rub it on your shoulders/upper arms, and/or abdomen once daily. It comes in 5mg 7mg and 10mg which will put up to 100mg Test into you steadily throughout a 24hour period. You then reapply it the next day, and so on. It gets into your system in about 30 minutes (I know what you're thinking--rub prior to workkout). I think it should send your workouts through the roof. I don't think the sides will be anywhere near as pronounced as with the injectable Test--although I just don't know as I have (sadly)experienced neither. Anyway more information is available at unimed.com. Read the products section as well as the clinical trials. You will be equally impressed. I am just chomping at the bit to score some of this stuff. Hope my Dr. is open to a 29 year old seeking "hormome therepy". If not, maybe someone out there knows a Dr. who is more open minded.

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The Ranger
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Good article about it recently in time......heh heh heh.....wonder if you rub it on yer cock, if you would get site growth....nice to dream....heh heh heh

Ranger

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spoonman
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Or better yet Ranger, use it as lube to jerk the bird and the fucker should shoot through the roof!! he he he...

2 workouts for the price of one!!!!!

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spoonman
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posted May 06, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Does this mean we'll be seeing alot of bros with really big right hands?!!


ha hah ahha

spoon

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Romeo
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
whats up.....i read that you rub the gel on your inner thigh...there is a hugh vein there..and no its not the main vein....lol..but thats as much as i know ..also supposed to be coming out this summer ...hey brutis i would love to find out more info ...thanx bro peace

romeo

romeo must die----i shall rise

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Yoda
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Theres already a creme on the market called Testocreme, do a search by name on your web browser and you'll find it. According to the doctor its supposed to be 10% vs 1% for the Androgel but their both going to be hard to get. And not to flame or anything but how does a 5,7 or 10mg dose put 100mg sustained into your system, is this that new math.

Oh, I must be getting good at anticipating these things because I knew Ranger was going to say that before I scolled down and read it, funny shit Bro.

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The Ranger
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 06, 2000 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Yoda...you're thinking...and I like that....heh heh heh...!!!!

Ranger

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Brutis
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
In response to higher math, I only reported what I read in Time mag. It says the same thing on the Unimed.com website. Maybe the size of the packet is 5, 7, or 10 mg. I don't know. Maybe because of the way it's slowly released into the bloodstream, 1mg does not equal 1 mg. Again I don't know. Would love first hand experience. Until then, I just write them as I see them.

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komododragon
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posted May 07, 2000 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for komododragon   Click Here to Email komododragon     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.unimed.com/proddisc2.html

here's the pharmacology.

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spoonman
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Saw something funny on that Unimed link.....


"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION
The recommended starting dose of AndroGel� 1% is 5 G .....blah blah blah blah.

Do not apply AndroGel� to the genitals."

That's fuckin classic! Even in the usage directions they put this because they knew us fucked up guys were going to be creaming up our cocks as soon as we get our hands on it. What's funnier is you know some guys are still gonna do it.


hahahahaha

spoon

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komododragon
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posted May 07, 2000 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for komododragon   Click Here to Email komododragon     Edit/Delete Message
Hey spooner, here's the deal. Gotta be careful and make sure you grab the tube of KY and not the androderm. If you make a mistake and lube the tube wtih the 'derm, next thing you know your girl's gonna be shaving.

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Platinum
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Platinum   Click Here to Email Platinum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 53840868
Actually the reason that they put "do not apply to the genitals" is because there used to be a dermatological testosterone replacement therapy that should only "be applied to a shaved scrotal area" I think it was testo-derm. That is why they all come out and say not to put anything down there. If you look at androderm or any of the other creams it will say the same thing.

Platinum

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Yoda
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Brutis, that wasn't a flame but an honest question, I didn't know how they got to the 100mg sustained in the system, if anyone figures this out let me know.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 07, 2000 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Yoda and others:

Here's how they do it:

If you read the unimed site, it says that 10g delivers 100 mg of testosterone.

10g = 10,000mg
1% of 10,000 = 100

therefore 100 mg.

Read it more closely!

Matt

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muscles2
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for muscles2   Click Here to Email muscles2     Edit/Delete Message
yes i read about it in the time magazine article last week or so it is supposed to be twice more efficient than the injectible because it is supposedly to get into the bloodstream more they said it will make the injectible obsolete as for myself i think i would stay with the injectible until i see positive proof of the rub-on

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Yoda
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 07, 2000 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know something sounds fishy here. 100mg a day is 700mg per week. And then they say this gets into your system better than injectables? Think about this for a minute, thats like taking more than 3/4 of a gram (if its absorb better) of test every week for life, because its for hypogonadism. What about receptor downgrade? How many of us would survice on this much every week? Liver damage, kidney damage, prostrate problems!!!

[This message has been edited by Yoda (edited May 07, 2000).]

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