posted May 04, 2000 02:44 PM         

will this all help re DNP

DNP
Description
DNP was originally made as a replacement detenating compound in TNT. When used in humans, however, DNP will raise body tempeture by interfering with mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation. The way that this is accomplished in the body is that DNP diverts fatty acids away from ATP production and throws them off as heat instead. Aspirin, clenbuterol, and ephedrine all do the same thing but to a much lower extent. This is why you feel your body tempeture rising when using these compounds. DNP was used as a fat loss diet drug in the 1930's. There was a 1% incidence of users developing cataracts though and since DNP was not listed as one of the ingredients in these dieting drugs, they were pulled from the market.

The thing that makes DNP so alluring to most bodybuilders is that it will boost your metabolism like no other drug out there. With even a low dosage, in the area of 3-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, it will rate your metabolic rate 30%. If this dosage is continued daily, it will raise your metabolism by 50%. At this rate you can burn about 1 lb. of fat a day. This product is very dangerous to use though. An overdose of only 4 times the recommended one will kill you. As far as this product raising your body tempeture, it can raise it indefinitely as well. You can die or suffer brain damage after your body tempeture goes over 104 degrees. DNP can raise your tempeture much higher than that as well. If brain damage and death are not bad enough side effects to you, you can also suffer irreversible liver damage and/or kidney damage as well without even an overdose while using this product if you stay on it for too long.

DNP is known for cutting down on T4 to T3 conversion in the liver. For a person that is highly active and on a calorie restricted diet, DNP will deplete ATP within a matter of days. When this happens your body tempeture will go back to normal. The only thing you can do at this point is supplement with Cytomel (see that page on more information) in the dosage area of about 150 mcg/day.

This product is only sold as a research chemical. DNP can be used as an insecticide so that can be a reason for purchasing it if someone asks you.

Effective Dose
For overweight individuals with a bodyfat level over 15% the recommended dosage is between 3 - 5 mg/kg of bodyweight. For non-obese individuals with a bodyfat level less than 15%, the recommended dosage is between 5 - 8 mg/kg of bodyweight. In practical terms, a 200 lb. bodybuilder would need a dosage at 8 mg/kg of bodyweight of 728 mg/day. Keep in mind though that a dosage of 4 times this will kill you about 50% of the time. This is a very high, only 4 times the recommended dosage. This makes DNP a very deadly substance to fuck with. Probably the most deadly thing a bodybuilder can take.

Street Price
I have not seen this sold on the street. At some research chemical companies it sells for as low as 500 grams for around $20.

Stacking Info
This product can be taken with Insulin for excellent anabolic/thermogenic gains to combat the usual fat gain associated with Insulin use.

posted May 04, 2000 06:32 PM            

DNP
Description
DNP was originally made as a replacement detenating compound in TNT. When used in humans, however, DNP will raise body tempeture by interfering with mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation. The way that this is accomplished in the body is that DNP diverts fatty acids away from ATP production and throws them off as heat instead. THIS DESCRIPTION IS NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE- BUT CLOSE ENOUGH IN LAY TERMS. Aspirin, clenbuterol, and ephedrine all do the same thing but to a much lower extent. TRUE. This is why you feel your body tempeture rising when using these compounds. DNP was used as a fat loss diet drug in the 1930's.AND IN THE EARLY 90'S. There was a 1% incidence of users developing cataracts-INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THIS CORRELATION HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE SPURIOUS AND IS ACTUALLY THE SAME AS THE INCIDENCE AMONG THE GENERAL POPULATION. though and since DNP was not listed as one of the ingredients in these dieting drugs, they were pulled from the market.

The thing that makes DNP so alluring to most bodybuilders is that it will boost your metabolism like no other drug out there. With even a low dosage, in the area of 3-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, it will rate your metabolic rate 30%. THESE ARE GUESTIMATES- IT VARIES CONSIDERABLY FROM PERSON TO PERSON.- DIET IS ALSO A FACTOR AS WELL AS ACTIVITY. If this dosage is continued daily, it will raise your metabolism by 50%. At this rate you can burn about 1 lb. of fat a day.- THIS IS VERY GENEROUS TO DNP AND IN MOST PEOPLES CASES 1/2LB IS MORE LIKELY. TAKING MORE WILL NOT RESULT IN GREATER FAT LOSSES BECAUSE THEY WILL LOWER YOUR ACTIVITY LEVEL THUS LOWERING YOUR METABOLIC RATE- THINK OF IT THIS WAY YOUR BODY CAN ONLY BURN SO MANY CALORIES EVEN WITH DNP. This product is very dangerous to use though. An overdose of only 4 times the recommended one will kill you. THE STATEMENT "WILL KILL YOU" IS REALLY STRETCHING THINGS- WITH PROPER PRECAUTIONS AND SUPPLEMENTS LARGE DOSES CAN BE TOLERATED, HOWEVER SUCH DOSES ARE UNECESSARY AND CAN BE VERY UNPLEASANT- I PREFER LOW DOSES 3-4MG PER KG EVERY 36HR WITH CARDIO AND SOME DIETING. As far as this product raising your body tempeture, it can raise it indefinitely as well. STRETCHING AGAIN. You can die or suffer brain damage after your body tempeture goes over 104 degrees. POSSIBLE BUT UNLIKELY- IF TAKING PROPER AMOUNTS OF WATER, GLYCEROL, AND HAVING A GOOD FAN OR AC- LAYING IN A TANNING BED IS NOT A GOOD IDEA WHILE TAKING DNP. DNP can raise your tempeture much higher than that as well. If brain damage and death are not bad enough side effects to you, you can also suffer irreversible liver damage and/or kidney damage as well without even an overdose while using this product if you stay on it for too long. THIS IS SORT OF TRUE- MERELY BECAUSE OF THE GREATLY INCREASED LEVELS OF OXIDATION THAT TAKE PLACE WHILE ON DNP- HOWEVER ONCE AGAIN WITH PROPER PREPARATIONS THIS IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. HOWEVER IF YOU ARE PREDISPOSED TO LIVER OR KIDNEY PROBLEMS THE STRESS OF DNP USE OVER A LONG PERIOD MAY CAUSE DAMAGE. IRREVERSIBLE IS A WORD THAT SHOULD RARELY BE USED AND IN THIS CASE UNWARRANTED.

DNP is known for cutting down on T4 to T3 conversion in the liver. For a person that is highly active and on a calorie restricted diet, DNP will deplete ATP within a matter of days. When this happens your body tempeture will go back to normal. The only thing you can do at this point is supplement with Cytomel (see that page on more information) in the dosage area of about 150 mcg/day. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG- DNP WILL ALWAYS WORK- TAKING CYTOMEL WITH DNP WILL ONLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE YOU LOSE- TEMPERATURE, WHILE IT SEEMS IMPORTANT, IS IRRELEVANT TO WHETHER DNP IS WORKING.

This product is only sold as a research chemical. TRUE. DNP can be used as an insecticide so that can be a reason for purchasing it if someone asks you. TRUE- WOOD DYE TOO.

Effective Dose
For overweight individuals with a bodyfat level over 15% the recommended dosage is between 3 - 5 mg/kg of bodyweight. For non-obese individuals with a bodyfat level less than 15%, the recommended dosage is between 5 - 8 mg/kg of bodyweight. In practical terms, a 200 lb. bodybuilder would need a dosage at 8 mg/kg of bodyweight of 728 mg/day. 8MG PER KG IS A LOT AND PROBABLY UNECCESSARY- UNLESS YOU ARE LAZY AND DONT MIND FEELING MISERABLE. ALSO DOSING SHOULD BE EVERY 36HR PERIOD INSTEAD 24 BECAUSE OF THE HALF LIFE OF DNP. Keep in mind though that a dosage of 4 times this will kill you about 50% of the time. THIS LD-50 WAS DETERMINED USING RATS WHO CANNOT INCREASE THEIR WATER INTAKE OR TAKE ANY OTHER PRECAUTIONS TO LOWER THEIR BODY TEMP. STILL TAKING THAT MUCH IS STUPID ANYWAYS AND NOT NECCESARY FOR FAT LOSS. This is a very high, only 4 times the recommended dosage. This makes DNP a very deadly substance to fuck with. Probably the most deadly thing a bodybuilder can take. INSULIN CAN PUT YOU IN COMA, IGF HAS BEEN LINKED TO CANCER, DIURETICS ARE THE BIGGEST KILLERS OF BODYBUILDERS- LETS MOVE DNP DOWN THE LIST A BIT.

Street Price
I have not seen this sold on the street. At some research chemical companies it sells for as low as 500 grams for around $20.

Stacking Info
This product can be taken with Insulin for excellent anabolic/thermogenic gains to combat the usual fat gain associated with Insulin use. I AM NOT A FAN OF INSULIN SO I WILL REFRAIN FROM COMMENT.

DNP CAN BE DANGEROUS BUT USED INTELLIGENTLY IT CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL. I MUST STRESS INTELLIGENTLY. SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN SOME BAD SIDE EFFECTS BECAUSE OF EXCESSIVE DNP USE, I WILL NOT NAME NAMES BUT SEEING YELLOW SPOTS IN INDICATIVE OF DNP ABUSE. OTHERS HAVE FAILED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DNP HALF LIFE AND THE FACT THAT IT CAN BE IMMUNOSUPPRESIVE BECAUSE OF THE EXTREME OXIDATIVE STRESS IT PUTS ON YOYUR BODY AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT DNP EXCRETION RATES ARE DIFFERENT- SO WATER AND SUPPLEMENTS SHOULD CONTINUE FOR AT LEAST A WEAK AFTER CESSATION OF DNP INTAKE.
DNP USE IS A VENTURE THAT SHOULD NOT BE LIGHTLY ENTERED INTO. BUT SUCH A VENTURE SHOULD ONLY BE MADE WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE AND THE APPROPRIATE SUPPLEMENTS AND PREPARATIONS.

WARNING- DNP IS A TERATOGEN AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN BY WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT OR WHO COULD BECOME PREGNANT WITHIN 2-3 MONTHS ONF DNP USE- I PERSONALLY AM NOT TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH WOMENS USE AT ALL, THOUGH I AM NOT TOTALLY UNCOMFORTABLE EITHER- MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ORIGINAL STUDIES WERE WOMEN.

PEACE

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