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JustVans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustVans     Edit/Delete Message
Well...I know 'm going to get flammed for asking this one but I was going through old posts and cam accross one on POT after a workout. Now I can never say I've smoked after a workout but have before and the intensity cannot be compared. See I've never been a big smoker but my roomate for a while was. One day we smoked a J then 10 minutes later he was at the door saying we were going to workout. I just laughed saying there is no way I'm wasting my time going. We were both on a cycle at the time and he insisted saying we 're not about to miss out on a workout and that I wouldn't regret it. Let me tell ya that first set was a little rough but afterwords forget it the intensity has never been the same. See when you're stoned you notice every little detail at least within yourself, you can feel every muscle, every fiber twitch it seems, and the concentration is incredible. Second of all the burn isn't painful and you just keep pushin and pushin and pushin. We were always smart about our lifts and never sloppy to get hurt but I can say doing new maxes were hit everytime. For the first time a 5'7 180 on dbol and sus (and I'm talking low quantities compared to the posts) was putting up 150lbs dumbells aside on incline press for sets of 10. Going back days later sober and it was a struggle at 140. I no longer live in the same town as that guy and don't even smoke anymore but I can say for all of you knocking bud and working out. You'd be amazed. Once the mental block variable is taken out of the equation, the workout can be amazing. Don't knock it 'till you tried it, I would have believed for a second had I not gone through it myself. Now I am not saying go out and smoke because I know I'll have 30+ flames but if you do smoke, try it out sometime. Just CONTROL the buzz and treat it like any other workout. Going back on another cycle again and not being around a bud smoker I'm hoping I can get that same focus without it but as much as I try I don't think its going to be the same.

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Capt'n_Crunch
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posted May 03, 2000 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capt'n_Crunch   Click Here to Email Capt'n_Crunch     Edit/Delete Message
I agree bro.....when I was in high school I was smoking that shit all the time and when i worked out it was amazing.....you can feel every little muscle fiber thats working and you dont notice the fatigue. I love the shit

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goldenfinger
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posted May 04, 2000 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldenfinger   Click Here to Email goldenfinger     Edit/Delete Message
i smoke before going to the gym once in a while. goldenfinger = resinfinger. I find as long as your not someone who gets overly tired or baked it can be a great training aid. It can help you concentrate but the effects arent the same for everyone. As well it speeds up your heart a bit which could be a good or bad thing. the only thing i find wrong with it are the stares you get when you are working out all red eyed and stinkin like a skunk !!

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Prayin4Mass
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posted May 04, 2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prayin4Mass     Edit/Delete Message
I hear ya...when my bro was workin out with me, he always had better lifts when he was stoned. I wouldn't think it was possible if I hadn't seen it.

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goldenfinger
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posted May 04, 2000 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldenfinger   Click Here to Email goldenfinger     Edit/Delete Message
and another thing smoking before running kicks ass. i feel like ive been shot full of morphine right from the first step. like breaking thru the wall at metre 1

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JustVans
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustVans     Edit/Delete Message
REd Eye? Smelling like a skunk???
That's what the visine was for and get changed just after!

[This message has been edited by JustVans (edited May 04, 2000).]

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Mr H
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posted May 04, 2000 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr H   Click Here to Email Mr H     Edit/Delete Message
Smoking while on a cycle, seems like a waste to me. But hey, if ya say it worked, who knows..

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Capt'n_Crunch
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posted May 04, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capt'n_Crunch   Click Here to Email Capt'n_Crunch     Edit/Delete Message
HEY YOU FAKE ASS SMOKER.... real smokers always keep visine on hand....hehe j/k....

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moe dank
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posted May 04, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
my drug counsler thinks i am an addict, but i think a joint makes everything you do better, not just lifting weights.........MOE DANK!

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eclass
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posted May 04, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eclass     Edit/Delete Message
one of my boys insists on getting blunted before hitting the gym. he loves it and he's jacked(6'2/235lbs/5%bf) for me that stuff is a muscle relaxor(and a motivation killer)

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 04, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
EAT THE WEED INSTEAD OF SMOKING IT ...I DONT FUCK WITH THE SHIT BUT I GOT A FRIEND WHO SAYS THIS IS THE BEST BEFORE A WORKOUT..I THINK ITS BULLSHIT MYSELF

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Doc Ponch
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posted May 04, 2000 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Ponch   Click Here to Email Doc Ponch     Edit/Delete Message
I get high before every workout. While all those morons are busy getting "toned", I'm frickin' looking for more 45's.

The Doctor

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Busy_Mind
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posted May 04, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Busy_Mind   Click Here to Email Busy_Mind     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5850712
MMMM MMM GOOOODDD! Smell that aroma from Mary Jane's snatch? The need for weed, gotta love it. But don't interfere your BBing with it! Do it while your not juicing! Shit I wish I weren't so clean right now.

~BM~

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hardrock
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posted May 04, 2000 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hardrock   Click Here to Email hardrock     Edit/Delete Message
I'd have to disagree. In the past when I've smoked before a workout, all it does is make me tired and lazy. All I can think about is goin home.

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biggmack
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posted May 04, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biggmack   Click Here to Email biggmack     Edit/Delete Message
Just thought I would let all of you hard-core juicers know that THC can stimulate the formation of gyno.
"Where did I stash that extra nolvadex?"

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Slim Whitman
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posted May 04, 2000 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slim Whitman     Edit/Delete Message
He's right about the gyno comment. Weed is enough by itself to cause it, so just take note of that. I use it on occasion to help me sleep, but never before working out. I'll give it a whirl sometime though...

Slim

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Rich1
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posted May 04, 2000 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
The hype about gyno and weed is not true. A phony Dr by the name of Gabriel Nahass published the first "reports" about cannabis causeing tits in young men. He was later discredited by the very Government agency who sponcered his "research" in the first place... So go a head and toke up! It's the tobacco ya gotta watch out for, it should be illegal but our Government is corrupt...But you already knew that..............

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Big Brother Val
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posted May 04, 2000 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone who has been around the block on this board, knows how I feel about that fuckin' subject...

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Slim Whitman
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posted May 04, 2000 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slim Whitman     Edit/Delete Message
Rich1, I know of 3 people personally that have had cases of gyno ranging from mild to severe ALL because of smoking weed. I've seen the results of tests done to them before, during, and after the use of weed and I can say with a fact, that YES, in some instances, it does cause gyno!!! I know half the shit the government tells us is false, but on this occasion, they were correct. In one of the above cases, it was determined that he was genetically pre-disposed to gyno, and if you ever saw the hooters on his dad, who also is a bigtime flamer, you'd understand.


Slim

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Rich1
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posted May 04, 2000 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Slim, I have toked MORE herb than most for over thirty years and no tits! If a guy is predisposed to gyno, even not smoking won't stop it. I'm lean 8% BF or less. I mean I really toked up during the teenage years and still no tits. Maybe my mileage differs from your buddies, but everyone is different, I know alcohol use can really lower your test levels and shrink your nuts up with long term use, that's why I quit.Funny how the government doesn't tell us about that too...

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goldenfinger
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldenfinger   Click Here to Email goldenfinger     Edit/Delete Message
Weed causing gyno is propaganda left over from the reefer madness era. Ive toked daily for 13 years and no bitch tits and everyone of the hundreds of stoners at my school is also bitch titless. this sounds like something general mcaffrey would promote .

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Krusher
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I can tell you guys from my own experience that smoking weed can cause gyno. I was starting to get a mild case of it until I cut back on the toking and it went away. I was very steroid free at the time and no, I'm not overly sensitive to gyno as I can handle 1000mgs test/wk no problem.

I personally couldn't workout baked, but my buddy does before most workouts and swears by it, he says it makes him really focus. Personally, I'm afraid of tearing a pec or something stupid like that.

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Big Brother Val
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posted May 04, 2000 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, Goldenfinger... fact is fact. Want more info? Here's a quote from Mac:

cannabis does not actually raise estrogen levels- it itself has phytochemicals that are estrogenic- it has phytoestrogens- these are a defense mechanism of plants to reduce the fertility of their predators. thus smoking can reduce your production of testosterone, give you bitch tits- if done heavily enough, and make you store fat like a women- a gynoid fat storage pattern- but other than that and the laziness factor I dont see why it would affect you to much.
BTW- GHB and its precursors are a better choice for sleep at night. however there is nothing really wrong with smoking though it may hinder your gains for the reasons above. Alcohol will hinder your gains by increasing aromatase production resulting in increased estrogen production through increased test conversion- it also puts a lot of strain on the liver.


For more info, check out this classic post:
https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/03-2000/005490.html

[This message has been edited by Big Brother Val (edited May 04, 2000).]

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goldenfinger
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posted May 04, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldenfinger   Click Here to Email goldenfinger     Edit/Delete Message
i could pull a thousand studies out of my ass that say steroids kill, shorten your dick, cause heart attacks etc. etc. is this true ?? did you know that vegetable eaters born before 1850 are more likely to die from natural causes than smokers born after 1960 ?? of course i'm just basing this on statistics !!!

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goldenfinger
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posted May 04, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldenfinger   Click Here to Email goldenfinger     Edit/Delete Message
i could pull a thousand studies out of my ass that say steroids kill, shorten your dick, cause heart attacks etc. etc. is this true ?? did you know that vegetable eaters born before 1850 are more likely to die from natural causes than smokers born after 1960 ?? of course i'm just basing this on fact !!!

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