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dboxer911
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dboxer911   Click Here to Email dboxer911     Edit/Delete Message
could a person possibly do one cycle, gain 30 lbs, keep 20 lbs and then work out hard naturally then keep the 20 lbs for as long as he continues to work out hard???I am not an advocate of this method but have seen many people post this type of question..my personal experience is that the gains are infinate..i did a short test cycle about 4 years ago gained 13 lbs kept 8 lbs and didnt taper..4 years later i still havent lost that 8 lbs..so i guess i am asking everyone opinion or experiences on whether or not you think gains on one cycle can be infinate??

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FitnessChick
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
that is such a broad question...it depens on what you take, for how long, how you train, what you eat,,,,bla bla bla...you would have to be a little more specific

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dboxer911
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dboxer911   Click Here to Email dboxer911     Edit/Delete Message
all im asking is if you think you can take 1 cycle only and keep the gains from it forever if you continue to work out and eat good..or will the gains continue to dissapate little by little no matter what you do to prevent it from happening??

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Popeye
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Popeye   Click Here to Email Popeye     Edit/Delete Message
It is my feeling that your first cycle always produces the best gains, as well as the most long lasting. I made strength gains on my first cycle that I have never lost years later....As long as you taper off the drugs and continue to train, it is very possible to keep your gains, of course if you are taking ridiculous amounts of a steroid and all of a sudden stop cold, you will crash.

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FitnessChick
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
first cycle is always the best...receptors are clean,,,some a.s.'s produce better gains in size & strength, but you dont always keep more...look at this pagehttp://members.tripod.com/~absolutetruth/pharmrankingsystem.htm


this is a ranking system for catagories...size, strength, cutting, ability to keep gains...it will give you a lot of specific info

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swoll Patrol
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swoll Patrol   Click Here to Email swoll Patrol     Edit/Delete Message
The only gains that really stick with u are those of gh b/c it increases number of cells etc.... but u can loose anything it u stop using or workingout. As for growth you will keep the aquired cell so say if u do growth and after the cycle of growth you quit working out you will loose mass eventually but say for instance if u had 17 inch arms natural thats b/c of the genetics and test and # of cells so with growth lets say u get 19 and quit working out they may shrin to 18 or something like that but u will always have those extra cells its kinda like its kinda like adding bricks onto a foundation to make a house higher u can build onto the house to make it bigger but its never going to get smaller in height "sorry so long"

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MattTheSkywalker
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Somebody STOP THE BULLSHIT. Please.

First, you are going to gain a lot of weight from a high test first cycle. Some of it will be water weight. This will go away when you are off.

You may also get some fat gain, because you should be eating like a maniac.

But the gains you care about are muscle.


Yes, you can keep that. You will lose a little, in general, but you can reasonably keep 3/4 of what you have gained, sometimes even higher. That is with you for good as long as you keep training.

Swoll Patrol is misleading you. GH can cause hyperplasia, or growth of NEW muscle cells. AS causes hypertrophy, or an increase in the volume of existing muscle cells.

Email if you ewant to know more. But ask yourself this...if you couldn't keep your gains, how would anyone ever get bigger? You think those pros got that way in one cycle?

Matt


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Joseph_stalin
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted May 05, 2000 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

if your normal biological systems can handle and use that much muscle you will probably keep it.

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