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Juicer56
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posted May 03, 2000 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
I have just been informed by a very reliable source that there are two undercover cops in my gym and waiting to make a big bust... a couple of months ago these same guys had purchased some eq and stenox from a very good friend of mine and also some test before that but are probaly trying to see who the big time guy is, they are aware that i use "supplements" and also hook up some of my friends but i dont think they are concerned with me because im not the one pushing a lot of juice through the gym...any advice or experiences with this would be appreciated

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Juicer56
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posted May 03, 2000 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
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KANE
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posted May 03, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE   Click Here to Email KANE     Edit/Delete Message
Thr best advise I could give you is to keep your gear off premises. If they get a warrant based on the fact that they already know about your supps at least they wont find anything. Next let your buddies get there own gear, I have many good friends but I dont think for a minute when faced with going to jail they wouldnt give me up.
Just connect your friends with your source and stay out of it. If they have been there a long time they are looking for someone big, not a guy like you. For the police to devote two detectives for that amount of time there is a big fish in the water. I couldnt see them burning up the payroll for ham and eggers like us. Dont worry bro

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moe dank
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posted May 03, 2000 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
here is what the problem is. they already bought from your friend, regardless of who they are after when everything goes down they are going to come a knockin. I sold to a undercover on 2 seperate times. he kept asking about more and more so i got really nervous and didnt ever hook him up again. 2 months later here he comes with the rest of the masked avengers. They are just buying time. I would change gyms and quit hanging around your bro till they are done with the sting. They will pop him even if he only sold them one amp. Then they depend on the scare tactic and hope he rolls on his hookups.....this is all from experience. so dont take what is happening around you lightly at all.

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moe dank
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posted May 03, 2000 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
No need to keep it up since that isnt what the old boy ment!

if you dont want to end up in jail dont do shit that is illegal.

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lexicon
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posted May 03, 2000 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
There is no doubt that anybody who sold to them will go down, even if it was one pin. If they don't have any direct connections to you I would stay away until it's completed. you can be sure that they know where every dealer lives though.

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N-V-R-2BIG
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posted May 03, 2000 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N-V-R-2BIG   Click Here to Email N-V-R-2BIG     Edit/Delete Message
MOE DANK

i feel ya bro. when i read what kane had put i felt like........well you know. anyway i couldnt believe he said that.

lexican---you can sell them as mnay pins as you want---they are not illegal. but if they find gear along with it then they become paraphenilia.........


DIE ALL RAT BASTARDS!!!!!!

MOE DANK---i feel your pain, trust me i do

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LittleSavage34
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posted May 03, 2000 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleSavage34   Click Here to Email LittleSavage34     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 51221561
I agree with moe dank on this one...don't turn your supplier over. Be a man and stick to your guns. No one likes a rat, and they usually end taking it in the ass when they are free and clear. Just keep your info to yourself, and change gyms quickly and quietly. Don't leave any papertrails behind. No gear at your house, no syringes, nothing.

You can't get arrested by selling pins man. Shit, if so, I'd turn 2Thick in pronto.

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BiffBoom
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posted May 03, 2000 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiffBoom   Click Here to Email BiffBoom     Edit/Delete Message
Juicer..I know the feeling..I live in a town with about 30,000 and there's only one good gym. Anyhow, the cops work out at the place and know who's who. About a month ago I gave some to a guy...who turned out to be a cop. Now, the guy came to me and asked for my source or else he was going to make things tough for me. To be honest, I'm kind of nervous..on the other hand, I fronted the stuff and have yet to receive money..so technically I never sold.
As for the source ..I might tell them my source is Vitality Health Products of Thailand(wink wink)..if I can only find the old address.
Definitely hide your gear..clean the house..and be on your best behavior. Denial is not a river in Africa.

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spoonman
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posted May 03, 2000 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoonman   Click Here to Email spoonman     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, get the fuck out of Dodge now. Change gyms and hope they don't subpeona the gym records to get your addy, unless they already got it by following you.

Also keep all shit out of you crib. PERIOD. They will come a knockin. Tell your bro he will go down cuz of that sale. No matter how the sting goes, they get EVERYONE and then hope the little fishes turn over. That's how they build cases - arresting the peons and getting them to talk.

As for talkin, when they ask you or your buddy for the big guy, tell them all the gear comes from some dude in Texas named RONNIE COLEMAN.

Then see what them fuckers say.

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aten8
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posted May 03, 2000 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aten8   Click Here to Email aten8     Edit/Delete Message
You guys are all paranoid fucks. One, kane said tell your friends who the supplier is not the cops. And second unless your selling thousands of amps or so they don't give a shit about you, period. Fuck guys here supply half the cops in Toronto. Where do you think they get there shit,other than stealing it from us or out of the evidence room. I totally would not worry about it just keep your noise clean for awhile. They are probably there just to train. It cost to much to have them at the gym. If they wanted the guy they would already have him.

peace out
Cops juice too they just want some free shit
f#%#% em

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androx
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posted May 03, 2000 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for androx   Click Here to Email androx     Edit/Delete Message
Moe Dank, you need to read a post a little closer before you go off flaming someone. If you would have taken the time to read that post again you would have seen that he wrote
"Just connect your friends with your source and stay out of it." Meaning let your friends deal directly with the source and don't be the middle man. Come on bro, we don't need to be assholes to each other.

androx

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moe dank
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posted May 03, 2000 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you didnt make yourself clear or maybe my reading comprehension isnt what it use to be, either what that is why i put forgive me at the first of it. I hate sellouts with a passion and since you arent one you can relate.

aten8 what the hell are you talking about bro. You say dont worry, but in america when you sell a undercover cop something they dont forget about it and just go away. O life would be simple if that were the case let me tell you. I sold a cop a 1/8 of weed and then a dime bag and they followed me for 4 months total. So yeah in my case they did bust a grower, but they had no idea about that and admitted they where just busting me so i would turn on my hook up.

See when you sell a cop something that is a felony. Even if it was only a misd. amont of whatever. Paranoia comes from realizing what is at stake.

PS i read the post a few times and that is what it said. he did change his post and made himself more clear.

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KANE
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posted May 03, 2000 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE   Click Here to Email KANE     Edit/Delete Message
Moe,
I appreciate the edit. Let me tell you one thing. My source is near and dear to my heart. Id give up my mom first!

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1 Mistake
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posted May 03, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1 Mistake     Edit/Delete Message
Controlled buy=visit from 5-0

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bollocks
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posted May 03, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bollocks   Click Here to Email bollocks     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 28672700
its against the law to GIVE someone gear.
so even if you ddidnt sell it, your still fucked.

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thiassi
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posted May 03, 2000 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with the crowd, if you sold to someone in the gym that you have not know for years, then I would change gyms. I have seen too many movies where the undercover cop becomes the best friend and then busts him. Where do they get the plot for the movie? I think real life situations.

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KANE
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posted May 03, 2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE   Click Here to Email KANE     Edit/Delete Message
Guys,
read the post HE DIDNT sell to the cops!
If they find out that someone else got gear from him then they have grounds for a warrant. If they dont find anything in his
house or any e-mails or such, he will be home free. If you dealt over the net, find an evidence eliminator. There is shit in your PC that you dont even know is there or could find! What really gets me is how freely people talk about AS use in public. Would you tell people you smoke crack or do heroin. I dont think so. Steroids are illegal, just like any other drug. Your taking creatine and prohoromones, and that is it!

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Pet Rock
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posted May 03, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pet Rock   Click Here to Email Pet Rock     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 802816
I see that he didn't sell to the cops but it is very close to home. I have seen this at my gym a few times over the years and the best advict it to take it very serious. To think that the cops don't give a shit because you are a "friend" or it's only a "few amps" just plane stupid! Get the shit including pins out of the house for at least 6 months. Better to be a safe bro than a doing time paying fines bro...

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lexicon
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posted May 03, 2000 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
NVR2BIG-----
In some states pins are illegal. In Massachusetts for example 1 pin was a felony until they changed it to a Misdemeanor a few years ago.
Obviously this is aimed more at addicts but it still can apply if they want it to.It's like this in over a dozen States

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studcj
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posted May 03, 2000 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
Stash you shit at a place NOBODY ELSE KNOWS ABOUT. Don't give up shit. Go to a scammers list and find an addy close to your area. tell the cops that the scammer is a big time dealer in your area. How much do you have right now anyway?

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Juicer56
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posted May 04, 2000 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
My informant is very good friends with the d.a. in my area and what i got out of it was that the undercovers think i was lying about saying i take vacations to the boarder and am a mule for some bigger dealer, the d.a. knows me and what im doing and said the cops aren't even interested in me(still paranoid)but another person whom was who i first got hooked up from...also this guy was found out to be the rat who made an anomamous phone call to try to get pressure off himself and they know this...as for gear i got 15 eq 10 t200 50stenox cards some fina, clomid nolva and gh & insulin...everythiung is rounded up in a box ready to go...the cops have to go through the d.a to get the warrant so ill know before hand and be able to get rid of it also i only have 1 month left at my gym and am not renewing it...probaly gonna move out of town..planned on moving this summer anyways...whats funny is that they got the eq and stenox and i personally saw them down the stenox...i guess that just the fringe benefits

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BETHEMAN1DAY
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posted May 04, 2000 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BETHEMAN1DAY   Click Here to Email BETHEMAN1DAY     Edit/Delete Message
ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND HERE COPS USE THE GEAR TOO..UNLESS MR.COLEMAN IS ALL NATURAL OF COURSE IM SURE HE IS BECAUSE,WHAT POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD ALLOW A FELLOW OFFICER TO GO TO SCHOOLS AND GIVE MOTIVATION SPEACHES TO KIDS IF THEY WERE ABUSEING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES...( I BET THEY HAVE A LAXED DRUG SCREENING...YA THINK??) I WAS WATCHING COPS A WHILE AGO AND SEEN ANOTHER OFFICER FROM THE SAME DEPT. AS RONNIE AN HE WAS A HUGE FUCKER TOO...THEY MUST SUPPLY THAT SHIT WITH ALONG WITH THE BADGE....WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS STATE ABOVE ME IS TRUE, SMALL OR BIG FISHES, THEY ALL GO WHEN IT'S PICKUP TIME..SELLING-GIVING-SUPPLYING AND POSSESION ARE ALL FELONYS WHERE I LIVE..A FELONY DRUG CHARGE IS LIKE A GREAT BIG FREE GLAZED DOUNUT TO A COP...THE WAY I LOOK AT IT,IT IS ONE OF TWO THINGS..IF THE COPS ARE ALREADY (BIG) THAT AREA IN YOUR GYM AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE DOING,THEN THEY COULD BE LOOKING FOR PERSONNAL USE...BUT IF TEY JUST STARTED THE GYM AN ALREADY ASKING FOR GEAR...WATCH OUT AND STEER CLEAR..LET THEM GET IT FROM THE NEXT GUY....GOOD LUCK

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Formula
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posted May 04, 2000 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Formula   Click Here to Email Formula     Edit/Delete Message
Don't these fucker have better things to do? How about busting real drug dealers. You pigs ever heard of crack, heroin, coke, speed ball? The sad thing is I could all of these thing faster than I could hooked up with gear. US has it's priorities in the shithole. I would clean all gear from home and gym. And tell your bro to be very careful. He should relocate his gear too.

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Juicer56
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posted May 04, 2000 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
now the shit has hit the fan, another guy in my gym was picked up last night but he didn't have shit at his house, he was a known ex. dealer and also gear but i don't think it was that big time....i know im next

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Natural Wonder
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posted May 04, 2000 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natural Wonder   Click Here to Email Natural Wonder     Edit/Delete Message
LITTLE RHYME:
Good luck bro
And **ck the 5-0

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bigal
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posted May 04, 2000 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigal   Click Here to Email bigal     Edit/Delete Message
I feel for you man but the gym where I work ou t has at least 10 cops work out there. I work out with about 5 of them on occasion and have actually got gear from a couple of them and even stuck a couple of them with 250 myself. Don't forget most cops want to be big also so they can intimidate people. If they are going after someone there it will be someone big they just want to get info from everyone else. Just be cool and make sure they cqan't get you when your holding. Just keep a cool tool and you'll be fine.

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Checkmatebloated
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posted May 04, 2000 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Checkmatebloated   Click Here to Email Checkmatebloated     Edit/Delete Message
aten8, I am sorry, but I got to flame you. You keep saying they nolnoger may anavar. Yes they do they started back about 2years ago 2.5mg football shape and blue.

You say they are not going to bust you for a small about. Well that is a bunch of crap also. Friend of my got busted will 8sos. He mail ordered 12sos, 40clomid, and 100d-bol. When they came to his front door the pills were in his car and all he had left was 8 sos that they found in his bathroom under his sink. Never found the pills. Got probation a fine and the neighbors saw him get carted off to jail. Less than $200.00 in gear and it was just his second cycle. He got dicked.

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