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 hydroxy cut vs. xenadrine.....and addipo &guggels
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Dogballs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted May 03, 2000 06:48 PM
   I know most some of you guys are going to preach about diet is everything and there is nothing that can be substituted for it. I know this but I am looking for an extra edge to speed up the fat melting. Which do you guys think is better, hydroxy or xenadrine? And what about adipokinetix taken with guggelboic? Which do you guys think is better for fat loss? IP: Logged |
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BrickWall Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:02 PM
just do the ECA stack.... alot cheaper and just as effective from my findings. 25mg epherdrine take the Epherdrine 1/2 hour b-4 the others because it takes an hour to be in full effect. Works great. -BW IP: Logged |
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Mr H Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:05 PM
Stacker 2 is, in my mind, the best. Of course I'm a strict bastard when I diet and have around 500 calories a day while doing 5 miles of running a day....it's all about diet, hurt yourself and in the long run you'll feel great!!! IP: Logged |
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Neiko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:08 PM
I would have to say hydroxycut the shit works great and the longer you use it the better it works. IP: Logged |
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Neiko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:09 PM
One other thing you could always try clambuterol, never tried it but I heard its the shit. He He He !!!! IP: Logged |
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BrickWall Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:16 PM
Neiko The hydrocust has eph. in it when taking it for awhile it is stored in the fat cells of ur body, The longer u take it, the more effective it is because it take less Eph. to get u going because u have is stored. Eph also releases Adrenelin into your blood and if this goes on too long it will shut down ur Adreno glands. Ehp is also the main ingredent in ripped fuel which contains 20mg per serving! -BW IP: Logged |
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Neiko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 138) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:32 PM
Thanks for the info BW!!! IP: Logged |
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Frackal Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted May 03, 2000 10:01 PM
I really like MD6. (Biotest) It's the best ECA type product I've ever used by [b]far.[b/] Mr. H, where would I find Stacker 2? Sorry for my ignorance, I have never heard of it before, I am assuming it's a (legal)supplement. BTW, did you mean you CUT 500 cal/day and run 5 miles? 'cause to me it looked like you said you only ate 500 cals/day... IP: Logged |
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LadyJaye Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted May 03, 2000 10:13 PM
I tried Hydroxycut and didn't really have too much luck with it, I just ordered MD6 - supposed to get it tomorrow. It's similiar to Adipo but instead of stacking with guggul it contains guggul. Good Luck with what you decide! IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted May 03, 2000 10:15 PM
I added 1000mg of asprin to the Zenadrine and I was going a gazillion miles an hour.. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted May 03, 2000 10:18 PM
I am not saying that was a smart manuever but, that I tried it....maybe not so good thing to do ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mr H Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213) |
posted May 03, 2000 10:20 PM
you can get Stacker 2 at any "Vitamin Shoppe" or at www.stacker2.com. And you read it correctly, I eat eat around 500 calories a day. Yes it's not too healthy but it works. IP: Logged |
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BigAssSigChi Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted May 03, 2000 11:20 PM
Tri-cuts by sci fit is the best thing on the market now. It was taken off gnc's shelves b/c it supposedly can mess with your thyroid, but let me tell ya, ive tried hydrox and xena and tri cuts kills them both.with the right diet and cardio you will shred up. also there is no "shakes" from it like hydrox and xena. you can find it at www.muscledawg.com, 29.99, it cost 79.99 at a local weight lifting shop in my town IP: Logged |
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krzysiu013 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 50) |
posted May 03, 2000 11:56 PM
try crack. youll steal alot, but youll get skinny as fuck.....jk im actually very interested in the subject, and muscledawg link didnt work, are you sure thats the right site. thanks IP: Logged |
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BigAssSigChi Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted May 04, 2000 12:05 AM
chris, yep, the site works, i actually just ordered a bottle right now! Try it again, maybe it s your server. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 593) |
posted May 04, 2000 12:29 AM
MD 6 works. And that's it. Crack is good too but it kills your appetite for days. Matt IP: Logged |
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thickness Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted May 04, 2000 12:33 AM
I've found that if you do Meth and follow with a crack chaser, it melts everything away, LMAO. IP: Logged |
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mason Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted May 04, 2000 12:39 AM
THe link is messed up - try this: http://www.muscledawg.com IP: Logged |
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elite hot topic Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 34) |
posted May 04, 2000 10:52 AM
Men i have taken the e/c/a stack when i lean out and find that i can loose up to 10 pounds in about 4 weeks while keeping my mass. 25 eph 325 asp 200 caff 3 times a day 5 weeks have fun IP: Logged |
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BrickWall Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted May 04, 2000 10:54 AM
**BUMP** IP: Logged |
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demaroid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted May 04, 2000 11:30 AM
I personnally perfer DNP. Why waste time with the other shit? IP: Logged |
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Mr H Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213) |
posted May 04, 2000 11:48 AM
Well for starters DNP can help ya lose what, 6 pounds in a week? Well, by busting your ass on other shit you can lose the same, without the side effects. But I'm really not one to be talking because I'll be doing DNP soon ;-) IP: Logged |
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Dogballs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted May 04, 2000 02:00 PM
What exactly is DNP? IP: Logged |
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decibel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted May 04, 2000 02:22 PM
yeah, what is dnp? i've heard people say it can kill you. IP: Logged |
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decadon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted May 04, 2000 06:16 PM
if you want to know about all the fat burning type stacks...search the diet and supplement forums...we talk about this stuff everyday...by the way...eca is terrible and impure compared to md6 and adipo IP: Logged |
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giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152) |
posted May 04, 2000 07:05 PM
I've tried guggel complex, hydroxycut, xenadrine, metaform heat, ultimate orange and DNP. DNP is best but you can only use it for one week then you have to take two weeks off. The best combo going is probably one week of DNP then two weeks of clen or an e/c/a stack like xenadrine and then start the cycle over. I have lost well over 100lbs of fat over the past 4 years of alternating gaining muscle and loosing fat. From experience, you can not loose more than about 2 to 3 lbs of fat a week without the assistance of DNP or steroids. Even with DNP you are looking at around 4 to 8 lbs of fat loss per week if you diet and do cardio. There is no magic cure short of liposuction. Everyone has to face up to the facts that you have to cut calories and up cardio or intensify your weightlifting in order to lose fat. The e/c/a stacks will only increase fat loss by about 3% or so. I guess that is something but not much. If you really want to loose go for DNP, otherwise just put your focus on your dieting program. Later, IP: Logged |
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Slopain Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted May 04, 2000 07:17 PM
Dont know if I should post a new topic for this but DNP clean receptor sights right? So I could shorten the time needed to be 'off'? Two questions 1. Like 10 weeks on 5 off then back on <--is this enough time to clean receptors? 2.Can this be taken safely with someone who has an office job and needs to appear to be "sane" (for lack of a better word) Slopain IP: Logged |
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demaroid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted May 04, 2000 07:38 PM
DNP cleans receptors in a very short time say one week of DNP use would produce a good condition to hit your receptors with gear. I am presently starting a two stage cycle this saturday 6 weeks of gear then 1 week DNP. Then another 6 weeks of gear. Macro said his "twin" had good results with midcycle DNP receptor recussitation. I will give it a shot and let everyone know how it turns out. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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ItalianSweetness Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted May 04, 2000 08:04 PM
Mr. H----500 calories is too low. U want at leat 1000 to 1500 a day. The higher your calorie intake the higher your metablolism. Trust me 500 is not just unhealthy but inneffective compared to 1000. Peace. IP: Logged |
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Slopain Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted May 04, 2000 08:13 PM
Demaroid, definetly keep us posted that sounds like good shit. And do you think one could endure a dnp cycle without being to obvious about using some substances, in like an office setting? Slopain IP: Logged |
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Dogballs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted May 05, 2000 12:41 PM
Bump IP: Logged |
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Sittin' On Diesel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 349) |
posted May 05, 2000 12:56 PM
just get on some crack... IP: Logged |
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Dogballs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted May 05, 2000 12:57 PM
Hey man, I just did some research on DNP, that is some shit you dont want to fuck with!! It is said that DNP is potetially the most deadly thing a bodybuilder can put in his body. An overdose of only 4 times the recomended dose can kill you. They dont wheel out coffins on the stage! Be weary of that shit. IP: Logged |
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LBP Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 77) |
posted May 05, 2000 06:12 PM
Dogballs...hey Im sorry to inform you but research sometimes doesn't say shit...4x yes it will kill you but if you know how to use a calculator and find someone who can measure w/ a scale and your dropping 6+lbs per wk and you even eat more (at least I did) true you have to be very careful but one dose is so potent you might want to even go down on a full one...remember not to pyramid dnp just hit it hard, and if you start puking stop!! Don't knock it till you've tried it, that's what pisses me off the most, people who say " I HEARD that it does this or that" just fucking try it, if you don't like it stop. IP: Logged |
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Loco71 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted May 05, 2000 09:07 PM
one guy at the gym was on dnp,he started with a low dose and did not feel the effectes,excessive sweating,dry mouth .etcso on the 3rd day he upped the dose,well it finally caught up to him and had a very high fever for a day then went into severe convulsions his brother told me he is in intensive care with an IV and the doctors said he was dehydrated even though he drank enough water,like lasix when your body uses up all the potassium.so bro's my advise is do plenty of research before experimenting with such a dangerous "chemical" IP: Logged |
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Decaman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted May 05, 2000 09:20 PM
Not for nothing but Dnp sounds real dangerous, as far as crack, well it could work, as far as i am concerned hydroxycuts suck and the eca stack is overrated.Diet cardio, and I am going with md6( and deca of course, maybe deca dick will cure my dick problem)oh and before I forget NEIKO- WHAT THE HELL IS CLAMBUTEROL? CLEN CLEN -DAMMIT. LOL ------------------ IP: Logged |
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