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crash71
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
I have done two cycles of deca and test stacked and while I recieved great results I lost most of it and lost initiative. I damaged a shoulder and had it repaired 7 months ago. I have access to any product I need, but I need advice. One, I don't want to gain more than 6 or 8 lbs. Two I want to lose as little as possible. Three I am not familiar with Clomid and from what I have read on the board it is very useful. Is that the exact name? I want to cut but I experienced serious deca dick and I can't and won't have it again. I can set up my cycle and I will stack sust 250 with another product for small gains over 4 weeks, starting hi and tapering. The big q is what other product is good to combine that offers maintainable gains with no loss of sex drive and all injectable. And how much clomid or clen to cut up and maintain will be necesary. All flames welcome and I respect the spirt of the board.

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big_guy1
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posted May 03, 2000 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
only 6-8 lbs seems on the low side...and if you are only on four weeks, it is kinda pointless, hit like 8wks. Also the reason you are loosing gains is the lack of the use of clomid...search it and find out about it...

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crash71
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posted May 03, 2000 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
I am only trying to gain that amount to be sure my shoulder can handle it. Just for starters. The eight weeks sounds like good advice and that is what I did before. Any sugestions on what to stack it with in order to not lose sex drive?

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Shizzy Bizzy
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posted May 03, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizzy Bizzy   Click Here to Email Shizzy Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 117?
Crash... i would suggest trying to get Finaplix if you can find it, it doesnt put on much weight but packs some quality muscle, im about to start my fina this week... as for losing your gains, deca can be known to shut down natural test... & if you dont have clomid when you get off the cycle... you wont have enough test to keep your gains... instead of clomid, i bought this stuff called 'tribestan' at my local fitness store, works the same... just start using it a week before you get off a deca or finaplix cycle & use it every day till about 2 weeks after the cycle's done. That should work just fine... peace

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Curious
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posted May 03, 2000 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Is tribestan the same thing as tribulus?

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Shizzy Bizzy
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posted May 03, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizzy Bizzy   Click Here to Email Shizzy Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 117?
< a . href="http://www.tribestan.com">tribestan< /a .>

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Shizzy Bizzy
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posted May 03, 2000 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizzy Bizzy   Click Here to Email Shizzy Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 117?
well figures... the link didnt work...
but go to www.tribestan.com to read about it... peace

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Vlad67
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posted May 03, 2000 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vlad67   Click Here to Email Vlad67     Edit/Delete Message
what was the name of the surgery you had?... ive had several.... keep really light with the weights you use and do your reps slow with perfect form.... also stay away from squats ...they can be very tough on your shoulders with out you realizing it...

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crash71
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posted May 03, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
I had a slap lesion and a badly frayed ligament. They scoped it and shaved off a bone spur. My biggest concern is what not to stack that will decrease libido the way deca did. I will look into the finix, but I have never heard of it so it's probably unlikely. What stacks well without killing sex drive that is common. I am thinking equipose or winstrol are these both injectable and does thet bypass the liver. I want to stay as far away from my liver as I can. Are clomid and Tribestan really that close together?

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crash71
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 04, 2000 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Checkmatebloated
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posted May 04, 2000 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Checkmatebloated   Click Here to Email Checkmatebloated     Edit/Delete Message
Crash 71.

If you want to gain 6-8 solib pounds and not lose any and you have access to anything(that is what you said).

I would go with primobolan(not liver tox at all no water weight, by far the safest roid available) with anavar(it will make you stronger and harder with no water weight and not much strenght loss after stopping and equpoise(spelling)(slight wieght and strenght gain, but you retain i would estimate 90% of your gains. If you use these product for 6 weeks at a light mg per week, you should gain 6-8 and retain 5-7.

If you do not want to take 3 at a time use the primo and eq.

Can anybody recommend a dose. I have my doses so out of wack that I am not sure what a light cycle is. I would guess 200mg of primo a week, 200mg of eq a week, and 10 - 20 mg of anavar a day.

I am absolutly positive this is by far and away the best cycle to retain gains and get quality muscle.

What do you guys thinks?

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coyote977
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posted May 04, 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
I'm going to use primo 200mg a week/eq 200mg a week and denkadiol 150mg a week,3

The eq will give you size and strengh, the primo and denkadiol the hard mucle.

If not just use primo 200mg a week.

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crash71
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posted May 04, 2000 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
Does primo or equipoise jack with your sex drive? Does Anavar jack with your liver? Does anyone think that starting heavier and then tapering would be a good idea and then moving to tribestan in week 4,5, and 6 in place of clomid or is finding clomid a must?
Crash

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christian918
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posted May 04, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for christian918     Edit/Delete Message
Crash,

Anavar is extremely safe, dont worry about the liver thing. However, its expensive and very hard to find the real thing. I dont know about the natural product, but I definately suggest using clomid, its a must.
As far as Libido, Deca is the only thing that ever affected me negatively in that area.

good luck,

Christian

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Jay Z
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posted May 04, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
Take 'Checkmatebloated's advice

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crash71
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posted May 05, 2000 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
I am almost certain that his advice is where I am going with it. If you couldn't tell the sex drive issue is huge for me. Clomid is a new concept to me as I have been out of the scene for a while. I don't even know if it is illegal. I have enough savy to locate it regardless, but is it illegal. I learned some very hard and unecessary lessons about do's and dont's by trial and error and I can't begin to express my appreciation of the board and advice I have, and most certainly will recieve.
Crash

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crash71
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posted May 05, 2000 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash71   Click Here to Email crash71     Edit/Delete Message
bump, Thanks

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