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BigPapaPump
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posted May 02, 2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
I absolutely wore myself out tonight in the gym watching some little tampon of a guy working out. He must have trained every single body part in about an hour. It occured to me that this symptom could be applied to some of the hard gainers out there. It is really hard to gain any size when you do not provide enough recovery for yourself. Use your head and really think about which muscles work in conjunction with others. Over training will lead no where. I've seen guys training back / shoulders/chest and tri all in the same work outs. If you have enough energy to train this many muscle groups you should figure out that you're not traing hard enough. A good work out should leave you feeling like you're about to die...not because of pain but because you don't have enough energy to open the car door and drive home. Watch the freaks in your gym...you think they have enough energy left over to run around the gym and try to use every machine ?

BPP

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KANE
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posted May 02, 2000 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KANE   Click Here to Email KANE     Edit/Delete Message
Amen

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studcj
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posted May 02, 2000 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
I used to have a similar problem. I wasn't doing 4 body parts a day, but I was lifting 7 days a week. Now that I've gone to 5-6 my lifts have exploded.

BUMP!

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 02, 2000 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Smarter not harder - but I know the frustration......

Good advice bro

Matt

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ectomorph
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posted May 02, 2000 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
I love the guys w/no legs that wear their lifting belts all the time no matter what they train. It's like their BLANKIE....

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Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body
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pds132
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pds132   Click Here to Email pds132     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6
i know what you mean,i love watching those dudes work out, they do every body part in one workout and their form is way off. thats one of the reasons why i like going to the gym is to get some laughter out of these idiots.

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Paul Silvestri

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WCP
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posted May 03, 2000 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Ive often wondered just how many guys/ladies on the board actually plan their workouts so that nothing overlaps...resulting in no gains..and overtraining..

good post BPP,
WCP

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bigrand
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted May 03, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigrand   Click Here to Email bigrand     Edit/Delete Message
i do Chest, arms, traps in one day.
The very next day, legs, and back.
Hows that sound
It feels good
im there well over an hour
several excersises for each part

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Ice Man
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posted May 03, 2000 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
BigRand,

Just my opinion but I would split legs and back. You got two huge muscle groups to work. I train : chest, Shoulders and Triceps on Day 1, Back, Biceps, Traps on Day 2 and Legs get a day just for them.

Seems to work pretty well for me.

Later

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roobie
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posted May 03, 2000 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roobie   Click Here to Email roobie     Edit/Delete Message
Is training 1 body part per day recommended?
I've been doing this for a while now and I'm wondering whether I should be doing more.

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WCP
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posted May 03, 2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
One bodypart per day is sufficient. I allows for better recovery of each muscle group.
The only time I will hit two muscle groups in a day is if Im prioritizing a lagging group..then Ill hit that group 2x per week, with at least 3 days inbetween.
I get in there and get out. I dont see the point in doing endless sets, when I can achieve the proper shock and stimulation with the scheme I used.
I use this scheme:
Chest
Back
Shoulders
Legs
Arms

and I throw my abs in there at least 2x per week when I have time.
later,
WCP

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"You Shall Know Nothing, If You Have Not Known Everything...And If You Are Timid Enough To Stop At What Is Natural....Nature Shall Elude Your Grasp Forever" -- Donatien Francois DeSade

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coyote977
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posted May 03, 2000 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
bump

only one major muscle group a day.

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coyote977
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posted May 03, 2000 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
bump

only one major muscle group a day.

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Shizzy Bizzy
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posted May 03, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shizzy Bizzy   Click Here to Email Shizzy Bizzy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 117?
i do 1 a day... & i still feel like im gonna die at the end.... who does cardio? i cant pull it off... i just hate cardio! ... we dont need to waste so much energy on that... thats why there dnp!

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Curious
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posted May 03, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
I used to do Chest and Back on one day...Shoulders, Legs and Arms the next. I eventually broke apart the Shoulders and arms. Then I put chest and Back on there own day..finally I put everything on it's own day and that has really made a big difference. The only time I double anything up is if I decide to blast the hell out of it for a week.

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weez
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posted May 03, 2000 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weez   Click Here to Email weez     Edit/Delete Message
WCP~

I do the exact same split and I'm freaking shot at the end of my workout. Sometimes I'll eliminate the arms' day and through in bi's with back; and tri's with chest if I know I can't hit the gym that day. All in all it allows for maximum rest and maximun stress on each muscle group.

I changed b/c I was guilty of overtraining previously.

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stack225
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posted May 03, 2000 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stack225   Click Here to Email stack225     Edit/Delete Message
Just make sure whatever your split is that you use proper form. I saw a guy doing straight bar bicep curls at the gym, but he really looked liked he was doing cleans instead. I am suprised he didn't throw his back out. Needless to say he didn't have very good arms.

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