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bradley9 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:13 PM
  
My brothers: I am a total fan and a ADDICT to this board. I have formed friendships and feel like part of a family. I ordered SECRETS TO MAILORDER SUCCESS 2000. As a brother, I feel I must inform those intrested of the real consequences. There are about 40 sources. What a bitch that I am 0 for two!!!! That is right, two sources, two western union transfers, two ass f**kins!! (the tune of over $380, I started small to ensure only small loses.) Are the other 38 sources legit? I will let someone else find that out. My money does not grow on trees! I have tried on many attempts to contact Mr George Spellwin by e-mail. (OVER 7 DAYS with no responce) I am sure that it would not have made any difference. Buying AS is a high risk venture for us without a connection. I to dreamed of the perfect cycle, and George Spellwin fanned those dreams with hopes of a legit hook up. Is MAIL ORDER SECRETS 2000 a scam? I will not accuse it as such. There are 38 other listed sources that I could try. I just simply do not know why someone who is making $40 a pop can't return my e-mail. I am sure certain people will flame me for this post. I do know that my heart is in the right place and I have no vendetta against any person! Simply put, I am looking out for fellow hard working brothers like myself. If you decide to order, ask for K-Y jelly to go with it, it will help out with what comes next! E-mail me, and I will let you know which two took my money. George, I don't think its a good idea to publish sources. I feel certain your motives were in the right place, but perhaps BIG BROTHER is watching. BROTHERS:LET MY LOSS BY YOUR GAIN!! A HINT TO THE WISE SHOULD ALWAYS BE SUFFICENT IP: Logged |
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matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 430) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:22 PM
hey bro i feel for ya! and i think you should say what you feel, thats what this board is all about.... ------------------ [This message has been edited by matty (edited May 01, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:25 PM
No really, tell us how you feel. Just kidding. Sorry to hear about the loss. IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 195) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:28 PM
That sux ass bro...sorry about the loss IP: Logged |
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Gtn-Big2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 107) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:31 PM
Know the feeling bro. I have been waiting for a long time myself....think I may have been scammed also!!!! Have been very patient and I am not going to do any name calling, yet! But the way it looks....might have to. Good luck! IP: Logged |
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onlythestrong Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 273) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:36 PM
That manual is not for sources, just the good info. Search, search, and search the internet and you will find everything you need ------------------ IP: Logged |
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big dog Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:41 PM
That's why I am so hesistant to buy juice by mail order. I always hear about people getting steroids much cheaper than I can by mail-order. Fuck that!!! I'd rather pay the local dealer a higher price for juice thats in front of my face. Just my opinion. Sorry bro, Im glad I didnt order the book. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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slim jim Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:49 PM
I FEEL FOR YOU BROTHER. IP: Logged |
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deltman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 401) |
posted May 01, 2000 09:58 PM
Hey bro, I do understand where you're coming from. I got ripped on that deal too, and I'm not going to "hack" on George, but the sources in there from what I've heard and experienced are bullshit. Just take the time to meet some guys on here that can help you, that's what I finally came up with. But I'm there with ya bro!! I wouldn't send another buck to anyone on that list. deltman ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bigal Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12) |
posted May 01, 2000 10:18 PM
Thanks for the info bros. I was getting readu to make a purchase from one of the sources. I think i will wait for now. I really don't have extra cash laying around IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 130) |
posted May 01, 2000 10:21 PM
I think i should make my own "SECRETS BOOK" for $20 with some legit sources...Half the price, and better reliability!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bradley9 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 01, 2000 10:28 PM
I most certainly did not want to dis George. He had every opportunity to get back with me. I even e-mailed E2 about situation. (Because as all can tell, he is a very legit brother!) Not even he could help.(Oh shit, whats this world comming to?) Thank you to all mods. (E2 and El cubano especially) It is only because of our bond together "us brothers" that I dare post such message. All parties had ample time to respond. I did not post without considering reprecussions. (getting kicked off board) I am a straight shooter and a hell of a decent guy. I am only looking to inform others who dare piss away hard earned money on a 'pipe dream.' Again, I really do not feel that George Spellwin is a cheat. He is probably a decent guy. Only this report is in question. It would have been nice of George to answer my e-mail. All I can say is BUYER BEWARE! IP: Logged |
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sasben Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 112) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:18 PM
I feel your pain bro... Its sucks real bad! IP: Logged |
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bradley9 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:20 PM
Bump for brothers IP: Logged |
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UnrealBody Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:23 PM
Hey man, I know where your coming from. The same thing happened to me. My advice is that if something looks too good to be true, than it is. Maybe George meant well, but he ended up screwing us. He knows it. IP: Logged |
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bsjohnson Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 32) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:32 PM
I think i've gotten scam too. I'm about to email him one more time. Shit, i was so happy b/c i thought the sources listed in MOS2000, were ligit, but shit,you should never assume anything. luckly, i placed a real small order. IP: Logged |
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LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 332) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:38 PM
BUMP I'm not sure what's up around here lately. It seems like there are a lot of stupid people posting really stupid messages. There have also been a lot of people getting scammed. I've started to wonder if something isn't brewing actually. Are there more than 2 people working together? Seriously, this is a business, and an illegal one at that...we can't expect people to be ethical. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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300 kleen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 905) |
posted May 01, 2000 11:42 PM
Bradly, That's very honest of you. You will not get flamed for telling the truth. Search the boards and e-mail a couple vets, I'm sure you will find what you are looking for. Good luck. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bigsexy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 118) |
posted May 02, 2000 02:14 AM
die scammers IP: Logged |
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2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1788) |
posted May 02, 2000 03:19 AM
The answers you are looking for will not come from a list. Rather, make friends with the vets (as Deltman has said) and you will be happy with the results. Rememer that the vet's name is on the line when he vouches for for someone, so he will not take it lightly. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BLOODTIDE Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72) |
posted May 02, 2000 06:37 AM
Sorry to hear you lost your cash bro, but if you stick around long enough someone will point you in the right direction! IP: Logged |
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lilpump Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 49) |
posted May 02, 2000 07:35 AM
Dont give up bro! IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 581) |
posted May 02, 2000 07:44 AM
I agree. I had a kick ass source. I ordered a gang of shit from him. One time he even sent me back 220 in change, as he was out of something! I gave his addy to one of my friends, and sure as shit, his name got put on that mail order sucess, and he went south. My friend placed his order like three weeks ago, and hasn't heard a thing from him. I feel it has everything to do with the report in one way or another. IP: Logged |
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45Plates Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted May 02, 2000 08:12 AM
Bro that sux man, sorry for your loss. IP: Logged |
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bench Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:02 AM
wear is E2's response or George's. I'd like to hear what they have to say about this? IP: Logged |
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conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 647) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:16 AM
This whole situation sucks big time i really feel for you bro but as mentioned about make some freinds with the vets (even then be cautious) ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Parabellum Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:27 AM
Whats the deal? Should I order or not. IP: Logged |
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bradley9 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:30 AM
I would like to bump so George can read and comment. Seems others would as well. IP: Logged |
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abc-29 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 97) |
posted May 02, 2000 10:09 AM
Hey guys... George has a reputation to keep... I'm SURE he was not expecting any of the sources to be fakes... I bet you he is at this very moment trying to contact them and find out what is up... You can bet he's bummed about anybody getting scammed. IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 2754) |
posted May 02, 2000 10:14 AM
What do you want me to say, i think the whole idea of making a source list that is public is stupid and honestly if you order off it, then you have to wonder to yourself, if you can so easily get this source then so can everyone else who uses the internet. All source lists that are posted anywhere on the net are crap, useless, the other info in the report is not bad, but the source list i don't agree with and i spoke to the peopel who runt he board about that. What do you want me to do, if i could get him money back i would, but i don't have that ability. IP: Logged |
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SlaveMaker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:04 AM
I think/thought a report..ANY report of sources is a very bad idea. It is mass snitching IMO. IP: Logged |
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waltzman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 49) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:12 AM
sorry to here that but be a little smarter next time learn from your mistakes IP: Logged |
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rainhorn Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:21 AM
shit man ..... IP: Logged |
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die_hard842 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 367) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:26 AM
Always keep in mind a good source is earned. A good source has no reason to advetise in the open his rep. will biuld his business so if a source does post open and if he is a stand up guy it will not take to long before the boys put the clamp on his ass and that could mean all the asses of the guys who worked with him to. IP: Logged |
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GearHead WannaBe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:27 AM
stop beating around the bush, Slavemaker - what do you really think  IP: Logged |
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aten8 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted May 02, 2000 11:48 AM
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Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 426) |
posted May 02, 2000 12:03 PM
E2, Diehard, 2Thick, and some other guys have a point. It's common sense NOT to order from a list that's put out to anyone who wants it. As for those sources... even if some of them were reputable... that source list just wiped them out. And I agree... it's VERY hard to find a source... and to those who can't find one, or who are new to the game, would look at this list like the mother load. And for that... the list even being distributed was, in my opinion, wrong. Because the makers of the list had to know that the new guys or the source deprived would order this thing as soon as possible. So I can see both sides. Use common sense. Never order from an open list like that. I'm sorry for all of you that lost money on this venture. Live and learn. Use the information provided... just don't use the list. IP: Logged |
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BiffBoom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 270) |
posted May 02, 2000 01:21 PM
some of the best sources are the one's you rarely hear about. They stay in business because they don't advertise publicly IP: Logged |
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MP5 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 136) |
posted May 02, 2000 02:26 PM
I think that maybe some of the sources might have been popped by the feds since they probably got the list too, or they are under some heat and laying low. BUT... I did order from one of the sources and it showed up in the mail yesterday, so the list is not total bullshit! IP: Logged |
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2RIPPED Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted May 02, 2000 02:38 PM
THANKS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ORDER THE BOOK MYSELF! IP: Logged |
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Harleyguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 71) |
posted May 02, 2000 02:46 PM
First off,sorry to hear about your misfortune Bradley.I was wondering if we are going to hear from George on this one.Also,have you gus noticed that since this post is getting lots of attention,the 'ClICK HERE TO FIND STERIODS" banner is not there anymore. IP: Logged |
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George Spellwin Administrator (Total posts: 183) |
posted May 02, 2000 04:03 PM
Bradley, I am very sorry when you or anyone else is scammed when attempting to purchase steroids. We work here to make sure that our members are not scammed. This board and our Secrets 2000 report that pays for the site are a testament to that fact. But Bradley, with regard to your particular order, I must say that I am very disappointed in you. You and I both know that you have grossly misrepresented the facts here. You have emailed and called us on numerous occasions. I am certain that each of your calls was answered and that each of your emails was returned. Unfortunately I cannot return every email personally � I receive hundreds each day and I give priority to my personal consultation clients. This is why we have a trained staff that works with all of our members and subscribers whenever they need assistance. I understand that you spoke with one of them for about an hour yesterday. We also do not censor posts to our discussion boards even when they are critical of our site and company like this one certainly is. Openness has always been our priority this is why I include my phone number and contact information in every post I make. What concerns me most is that you purchased the Secrets 2000 report for only $5.97 when we made the report available for a VERY limited test promotion. When you contacted our offices you requested that we reimburse you for the regular retail price of $49.97. This alone is $44 MORE than you actually paid for the report. You further insisted we also reimburse you for several hundred dollars you claim to have lost in your failed drug deals. Then, you threatened that if we did not pay you this �hush� money, that you would make posts like the one that you have made here on the various boards on the Internet in what we presume is an attempt to damage the reputation of Elite Fitness. If you had taken the time to read the report you would certainly have learned that it is much more than a collection of sources. The report is about finding steroids and staying out of trouble. It recommends placing small test orders with any supplier before making any larger purchase. The report advises that you should never spend more money than you can afford to lose. Finally, the sources and scammers listed in this report are the most accurate available. The list is updated daily as sources dry up, as new ones become available, and as more scammers are discovered. Also, most of the sources are international and have been working with American customers for years. They are reliable so long as you make certain they package your shipment as described in the section of the reports on packaging tips. Although we do not, for obvious reasons, offer a guarantee on this report, Bradley, I will be more than happy to reimburse your $5.97. It is my fear, however, that you are much more interested instead in trying to damage our reputation and make us look like we do not have both bodybuilders and the sport of bodybuilding at heart than saving less than $6. Perhaps you are from a competing site, or perhaps you yourself are on the scammer list in either case, I do not care to speculate. But what I do know is that if there is any scamming going on here, I am afraid that it is you that is doing it. ------------------ George George Spellwin
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matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 430) |
posted May 02, 2000 04:25 PM
HMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm..... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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LittleSavage34 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 332) |
posted May 02, 2000 05:14 PM
Bradley did a good job speaking his opinion. I congratulate you for that...but, there are always three sides to every story. Your side, their side, and the truth. I still want my teeshirt George... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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johnny_lats Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted May 02, 2000 05:28 PM
I agree LittleSavage34, but this is basically a customer service issue that does not belong on the board. JL IP: Logged |
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conan69 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 647) |
posted May 02, 2000 07:59 PM
i have a copy of the emails between the two if anyone is interested i can forward it to you just send me an email at [email protected] ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Steriod_Virgin Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 88) |
posted May 02, 2000 08:05 PM
Not to overstate the point here, but you guys are BUYING ILLEGAL DRUGS THROUGH THE MAIL!!! Caveot emptor? I'd kill for a decent source, and I expect to get burned once or twice.. Dont bite the hand that feeds you.. If you spot a scammer, do you duty to the iron brotherhood and let the rest of us know.. When you find a good, source share it with people you *trust*. Everyone gets a bad deal sometimes, I feel sympathy for you, just dont blame the people who tried to help you. IP: Logged |
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Pet Rock Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted May 02, 2000 08:10 PM
Here here S V good point!
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matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 430) |
posted May 02, 2000 08:46 PM
Keep in mind that this guy cant defend himself any longer, because he has been ejected from the website and can no longer post... i was told this by him via email... ???????????hmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Karate guy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 211) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:35 PM
Well, I think the guy was just sayin what happened and how he felt. I've been burned before and if it had been for enough $$ I woulda used some frequent flyer miles and went lookin for the lil bastard IP: Logged |
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quadster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted May 02, 2000 09:48 PM
i got my fingers burned here in uk for 220pounds but so did a lot of other guys but in the e nd i helped out the fellow bros and it was his loss my gain IP: Logged |
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goldilox Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted May 02, 2000 10:48 PM
Sorry for your loss bro, join the club, I have been scammed too. but I know thats the chance you take. It's always sad to see people profit from theft. what comes around goes around and they will have their day bro let's just hope it's soon so our other bro's don't get jammed up.....peace. IP: Logged |
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Joe Juicer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 03, 2000 11:43 AM
I don't know that I even sympathize with the original poster. What kind of moron buys from a source without checking him out first ... references and the like. The secrets report had tons of very useful info. The source list was not particularly useful. Any legit source that's made public like that is going to dry up awfully fast. Dude paid $5.95 for his?? Mother fucker should be happy he got the promotional price. I sure didn't get mine for that cheap. And, frankly, I **still** think it was worth it. I come down on George's side. This dude's pissed because he got ripped, but saying that it's somehow Elite's fault is pretty dubious. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Flex Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 85) |
posted May 03, 2000 07:24 PM
I'm willing to overlook this whole deal if I could just get my T-shirt George..=) he he he ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Dogballs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 17) |
posted May 03, 2000 08:52 PM
Steriod_Virgin has said probably the most sensible thing on this topic yet. IP: Logged |
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