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LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!
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posted May 01, 2000 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!     Edit/Delete Message
What's up Bros! This is my first post, although I have read just about all of them! An excellent board! Im learning a lot more here than in any stupid magazine. I want to harden up mostly and get stronger, mass is not a priority. Ive been debating what to use, Primo will accelerate an already existing reced. hairline with the quickness, that's the only side Im overly worried about so what about just using winny or stacking winny and Deca? Would that do the job? in what dosages? Thanks I appreciate all your info. BTW, Im 5'7 175 and this is first cycl

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DRRman
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posted May 01, 2000 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRRman     Edit/Delete Message
bro, maybe try winny and equipoise, im gonna start a cycle of this in about one month, i've research quite a bit and it should harden you up
Im gonna do 400mg eq per week, 50mg winny each day, and probably throw in 200mg of T200 each week just to help keep some muscle!

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Unity66
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posted May 01, 2000 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unity66   Click Here to Email Unity66     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70960516
If your worried about your hair bro then stay away from testo and winny also.

Unity66!

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted May 01, 2000 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
Don't get caught up in worrying about only one side effect. I made this mistake in my first cycle, worrying only about my hair, when gyno came a knocking. If you stick to primo, you should be O.K. as far as gyno goes but you will always be better off to have the proper accessory drugs on hand.

For hair concerns, I would try minoxidil with spironolactone, which is a topical anti-androgen said to compete with androgens for receptors on the hair follicle. It is probably the best you can use with AS that do not convert to DHT via the 5 alpha reductase enzyme (such as Primo). I plan on doing this before I do a cycle of Primo.

I don't think the Deca will harden you up much, you will probably retain some water and lose some cuts. However, it is your best bet as far as your hair is concerned.

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Jay Z
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posted May 01, 2000 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
do some winstrol and some eq...

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Jeff_rys
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posted May 01, 2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
I am with you Anabolicum. Deca retains water (in my case) you loose some of your definition and since I hate to eat, eat, eat of lot of protein, Primo did a better job for me.
For hair concern, everyone can start with Primo or Winnie, just keep a close eye on your hair. I take a lot of zinc, good for your hair and according to an article read on the web, zinc helps blocking your estrogen receptors.

Jeff

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LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!
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posted May 01, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a lot Bros, Im not sure about Primo it's a DHT but as far as the winny goes what gives the best results oral or inject?? Should I just use winny alone? Later!

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matty
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posted May 01, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
i dont think primo will have an effective place in hairloss, unless your taking dosages over 300mgs per wk! i think if your a 1st cycler, that 200mgs per wk will give you good results without any hairloss.
Now if iam wrong about this please explain why, cause iam very intrested in this side effect being that im starting primo next week...

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LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!
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posted May 01, 2000 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LIFT, LIFT, LIFT!!     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks matty, I will let you know if I find out anything more about it, what you said makes sense. Keep us up to date with your results from it!

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CLEMDOG
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posted May 02, 2000 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CLEMDOG   Click Here to Email CLEMDOG     Edit/Delete Message
I would stick to the injectable winny, more effective and not as toxic to the liver.

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Busy_Mind
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posted May 02, 2000 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Busy_Mind   Click Here to Email Busy_Mind     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5850712
Bump!

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aten8
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posted May 02, 2000 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aten8   Click Here to Email aten8     Edit/Delete Message
Fuck it shave your head it will probably look better anyways.

Winny, primo's and haloteston. Sliced

150ml - 200ml winny/week
200ml - 300ml primo/week
50mg - 70mg halo/week


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matty
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posted May 02, 2000 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message
CLEMDOG, winny is a 17 aa steroid! thus quite liver toxic!! as in the injectable version and the oral version!

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