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deadliftr
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 29, 2000 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, this will be my third stack. I'm 20yrs old and am 5'10' 210 with 8% bf. I broke a bone in my wrist and had to take a 3 week layoff, but i'm gettin back and will continue to do so until i start this stack in 6 weeks. On hand i have the following gear. I'm not saying i'm gonna use it all but just so you guys can advise me while knowing what i got, here goes.
-2 bottles ref-b
-4 10ml vails t200
-2 10ml ultragan
-1 20ml vial t50
-100 halo
-plenty of clomid, nolva, etc.

Here is what i had in mind:

---------t200--t50-----refb----ultragan----clomid-----------
week1)-800mg/2cc-Eod/-3cc-ED/----------/-50mg-EOD/----------
week2)-800mg/2cc-Eod/-3cc-ED/----------/-50mg-EOD/----------
week3)-800mg/2cc-Eod/-3cc-ED/----------/-50mg-EOD/----------
week4)-800mg/-------/-3cc-ED/----------/-50mg-EOD/----------
week5)-800mg/-------/-2cc-ED/----------/-50mg-EOD/----------
week6)-800mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week7)-800mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week8)-600mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week9)-600mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week10)400mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week11)400mg/-------/-------/--300mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week12)200mg/-------/-------/--200mg---/-50mg-EOD/----------
week13)-----/-------/-------/----------/-100m- ED/----------
week14)-----/-------/-------/----------/-50mg-ED/-----------

so what do u guys think? Is this too much gear, people have told me that the ref is useless, but what do u guys think? I'm looking for some serious gains this time around.
thanx in advance for any replies.later

dl20

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deadliftr
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 30, 2000 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
bump, any input fellas?

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swol
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posted April 30, 2000 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swol     Edit/Delete Message
damn bro.
in my opinion, i would say you are kinda pushin it. i mean thats a lot of weeks to be on t200. even though its mild compared to other tests. i dont have enough knowledge to make you a cycle with those but... i do know that your cycle is a bit too long and harsh. 14 weeks on gear? at those levels? i dont know about that one. i never pass 9 weeks on gear. no matter what type of gear it is.
play it safe bro
swol

[This message has been edited by swol (edited April 30, 2000).]

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deadliftr
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posted April 30, 2000 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Krusher
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posted April 30, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I'll agree with Swol, 12 weeks of test is way too long, 8 weeks should be the max, you won't gain after that period. You can keep the EQ at the the end to help solidify the test gains but don't expect size gains past the 8th (6th for me) week of the cycle.

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always02
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posted April 30, 2000 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for always02   Click Here to Email always02     Edit/Delete Message
yo man a little much on the reforvit, thats like 75 mg a day. i just hope you are not prone to side effects. i also think it's to long of a cycle too.

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THESAINT
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted April 30, 2000 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you stacking the t200 and t50.
Same stuff. 12 weeks of t200 looks good.
ref 2ccs/day for 7 weeks. Everything else
looks good. Take out the t50, to much
oil in your ass.

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deadliftr
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 30, 2000 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deadliftr   Click Here to Email deadliftr     Edit/Delete Message
thanx for the input guys. i decided to cut the test at week 8 ad get rid of the ref. As for the t50, i'm going to keep it in and use it as a kicker. the t200 will take a few weeks to kick in and the prop will kick in a few hours so thats my reason behind that. but thanx for the input and i'll keep you posted on my gains. later

dl20

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Juicer56
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posted April 30, 2000 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
looks like a great cycle to me but i would make a few changes personally...i would take your last 4 weeks of test and move them to the begining as to start with 1g and hold it for 8 weeks I personally don't like coming off a cycle of test and usually come off with anabolics like eq and i like the ref-b its quick acting, good to shock your body at beginning...looks good bro

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