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 short cycles - do they work?
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HashMo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 29, 2000 12:26 PM
   Hey there guys im a relative newie, so ive been keeping hush hush in teh background, but there was a couple of things i wanted to ask you 1. ive read stuff about short (3week) cycles, being more effective in the amount of mass retained after the cycle is over compared to the usual 8-10 week cycles i have seen on this board. Has anoyone tried short cycle, have u kept more of your gains? Are certain AS better for short cycles? do u use higher doses on a shorter cycle? 2. if im taking a primobolan (or a primobolan + deca) for a first cycle, do i need to bother with Clomid? 3. dont flame me for this question, but i know 2g protein per lb of bodywieght and 5-6K calories is recommended whilst on a cycle but what about when NOT on a cycle, ive read different veiws on this, some people say take tons of protein, other people say there isnt much point in consuming that much. And calories wise, is there a formula for whilst off cycle, or shall i jsut go with what gives me a 1lb increase per week in weight? Thanx guys. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Buffalo_Bill Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 164) |
posted April 29, 2000 01:38 PM
THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED A 3 WEEKS BLITZ CYCKLE THEN U CYCLE 3 WEEKS WITH EKS. DECA IP: Logged |
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aten8 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted April 29, 2000 01:53 PM
Hashmo--- there is no need to take clomid after such a short cycle exspecially primo and deca. As far as you eating 5-6k calories I hope your a good 250+ otherwise you will be and not looking to good. I would suggest you try around 3000 for now. The 2gm of protien per pound is pretty good 1.5-2gm is normal. If you are only using the deca and primos then you shouldn't lose much when you come off. Three weeks is o.k try 400ml deca and 300ml primo per week for the 3 weeks. IP: Logged |
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HashMo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 29, 2000 03:52 PM
i have heard for first cycles some people are doing only primo, or only deca or a primo + deca stack. What do u guys think is best, ideally i wouldnt mind doing all three cycles if i got retainable gains from each one, but i do hear that the effectiveness of your cycles goes down the more cycles you do. im saying all this cos i am chicken shit, and thought i would start light with the primo and deca, and then later on move onto a deca/sust/primo combination (anyone got any good cycle recommendations for a deca/sust/primo combination - i know E2 recommends d-bol in this cycle, but i cant find a source for that) IP: Logged |
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dude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 226) |
posted April 29, 2000 05:59 PM
I do a lot of 4 week cycles and keep a lot. When I do 4 week cycles I like to use a fast acting drug instead of something longer acting like sostenon or test200. IP: Logged |
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quadster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted April 29, 2000 11:19 PM
try day 1 to 18 500mg long andorogen ie sustanon day 19 to 25 300 mg deca +50mg dbol day 26 to 30 200mg test prop +50mg dbal now tell me u aint growing. this is what the guru promotes IP: Logged |
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Krusher Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted April 30, 2000 01:13 PM
Quadster, how long would you take off between cycles then? Thanks. IP: Logged |
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Busy_Mind Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted April 30, 2000 06:37 PM
Bump ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HashMo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted April 30, 2000 07:14 PM
who is the guru and where can i read his stuff? Is primobolan necessary in eVERY cycle (e.g. sust + deca ) in order to keep gains? shall i only introduce primo in teh last few weeks of a cycle or should i be taking it throughout? IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 101) |
posted May 01, 2000 01:13 AM
Stop complicating yourself and do an 8-9 week cycle. If you take deca and primo for 8 weeks then you'll need some clomid. Do 400 mg a week/ primo and 400 mg week/ deca. Minimal side effects with this cycle.Primo might get expensive, so why not just use T200 instead? Do 500mg T200 and 400 mg deca...minimal side effects..and cheaper than the primo cycle. Later ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Primo_man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 139) |
posted May 01, 2000 10:31 AM
I'm going to do a 2 week cycle in a few weeks consisting of 750mg of omnedren on day one, 80mg finna eod, 4 dbol ed, and 50mg of winny eod, with clomid eod and ed after the 2 weeks are over. I'm looking for about 10-15lbs and about 7-10lbs kept after the cycle. I'll keep you posted on my results. IP: Logged |
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Phreaky Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted May 01, 2000 03:55 PM
I have been experimenting with short cycles for years. In fact, I was the first one to post it a "cyclone cycle" a few years back on this board. I departed this board for a while and just have recently come back. The only way short cycles will work is to utilize short acting compounds in high doses. Tren, test prop., test susp., Winstrol, and d-bol all have short clearance times. Hit them hard and fast...1500mg+per week min for three weeks on three weeks off. I only use a "cyclone" to shock the system into growth! IP: Logged |
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HashMo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted May 01, 2000 06:10 PM
Phreaky, do u suggest stacking in a short cycle, or the use of clomid, primo, deca, with these short acting compounds to help solidify gains? or would u just your d-bol straight for three weeks? IP: Logged |
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