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  Why not to juice before you are 20 !! ?? !! ??

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend who is 18 like me who is juising !

1.Why do one dont wanne use juice before 20 ? , i know about that you already makes a lot of steroids in that period before , but i also know that the reseptors are most ac`cessible at that time (16-19)
2. but does the natural androgena go down while u juice ??

if are there some juice who deosnt make this happend ? (androgena natural fall)

3. does the natural androgena come back to normal level after juicing ?

4 in that case , IF , why still cannot someone under 18 juice ??


PLease READ my questions before putting on a reply to things that has nothing to do about it !!
BUT I Am gratful for all info i can get on this !!!!!


THANKS GUYS !!

PEACE in the WORLD

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delt-a-saurus
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posted April 27, 2000 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for delt-a-saurus     Edit/Delete Message
yes your natural levels will drop also you are at an age where good protien intake and hard training will work. Trust me my brother is 18 he went on top quality whey, creatine and gabba and trained with me and bush pig. The little shit put on a stone and a 1/2. He is going on gear when he is 22 but no earlier. After he saw his gains naturaly he didnt have aproblem waiting.

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
could someon1 answer question 3 ??

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
e2 are you there ??

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Joseph_stalin
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posted April 27, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

it has to do with bone growth.

when you are under 20-22, your bones are made of both bone and cartlidge. the cartlidge grows and makes your bones larger. then more cartlidge is added, and the process begins again. that is how your bones grow.

steroids cause your body to store and use large amounts of calcium. the extra calcium turns the cartlidge in your body into bone, preventing your bones from getting any larger than they already are.
that is the main reason why people under 20 don't use steroids. if you could find a way to use them w/o causing too much calcium retention you could probably use them at age 15. i don't know what the effect on your pre existing hormones would be.

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
thanks joseph nice and informative like i was looking for :-)

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
listen to joseph !!!
i want to clear this out

IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS ?? e2 macroel el cubano ??

[This message has been edited by Buffalo_Bill (edited April 27, 2000).]

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Curious
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posted April 27, 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
Actually the reason that your bones grow is due to the Epiphyseal plate at the end of each bone. When you take steroids it causes these to seal over and the bone stops growing. It has nothing to do with calcium. Your body has an enzyme called calitonin which takes excess calcium in the blood and stores it in the bone making them stonger. Excess calcium will not cause the bones to stop growing. Hence finding a way to remove the excess calcium in your blood will make your joints feel better while lifting but your bones will still stop growing. Wait until your older because at the age of 18 I guarantee you haven't hit your lifting peak yet which is what you should wait for if you want best results.

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
but corious do you think a 6 weeks cycle of d-bol has stunnt my growth ??

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ozzymandius
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posted April 27, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzymandius   Click Here to Email ozzymandius     Edit/Delete Message
Mr. Stalin that'z what I've alwayz heard, but I'm sittin here reading anobolicz 2000 and on page 41 (under ANAVAR) is sayz that it iz the estrogen that causes the stunted growth. MAN by no meanz am i saying you are wrong, but I am very confused now. anyone know what'z up with this. is this book bullcrap? sorry if I offended

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musclemac
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posted April 27, 2000 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclemac   Click Here to Email musclemac     Edit/Delete Message
I am 19 years old and I just finished a cycle about 3 months ago. I didnt see alot of results from my deca cycle. However as to your Question 3, i think that the levels do not go back to normal, because I have not been able to get any stronger for the past 3 months. But I am pretty sure people like Jay Cutler and Lee Preist were juicing when they were younger than 20, and look at them now.
musclemac

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squatter
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posted April 27, 2000 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for squatter   Click Here to Email squatter     Edit/Delete Message
I started when I was 19. Now, years later, the only effect is that I am 50 pounds heavier and 1/2" taller.

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Buffalo_Bill
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posted April 27, 2000 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buffalo_Bill   Click Here to Email Buffalo_Bill     Edit/Delete Message
i thought that deca worked on natural hormones so that it wont affect any thing bad

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Curious
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posted April 27, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
If you do a 6-week cycle of d-bol only you will only keep about half of your gains. You'll like what you felt while you were on it so I guarantee that you will do it again and probably again...that is what can stunt your growth. Again, I feel as if you should just train harder and better and wait until you hit your peak.

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Juicer56
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posted April 27, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
rule of thumb....if you have doubt in your mind dont do it...it will keep you out of trouble and possibly a little good but not much

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