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Explosive
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 26, 2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Explosive     Edit/Delete Message
I have been on my diet now for 2 weeks
the first week I hit ketosis easy after day two took a pee on the strip and i showed ketones but this week is strange i have eatin alomst 0 carbs for the past 3 days yesterday i used the strip again and showed ketons but today i checked again and the strip did not change color at all.

What can cause this????????????????
I have eatin almost 0 carbs maybe 5-6 grams at the most that would be the milk in my omlet

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kbp74
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posted April 26, 2000 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kbp74   Click Here to Email kbp74     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Explosive

You body MAY be using up the Ketones so dont worry to much about it

Have you also hit the Cardio?

I noticed that when I did a Monday/Tuesday workout and did not cardio, then it would take till Wed /thurs morning to get into LIGHT ketosis (but this could be just that my body is using up the ketones).
What I did to rectify this was to do ONE final set of slow reps (20-25) on each of the exercises of the MON/TUES workout.....and now i dont have that problem.

BK

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Explosive
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 26, 2000 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Explosive     Edit/Delete Message
I ran 3 miles on monday and 2 yesterday
also taking ECA
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Primo_man
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posted April 26, 2000 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
You could also add some alphalipoic acid before morning cardio on sunday if you are carbing friday and saturday, it will lower your bloodsugar and force the liver to use more glycogen. Watch out though, cuse it could cause you to faint, b/c of low blood sugar, so use low doses(200mg), and work up from there. I wouldn't use it with your weight training workouts though, because you need optiomal intensity for the muscle sparing effects.

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Doc Ponch
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posted April 26, 2000 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Ponch   Click Here to Email Doc Ponch     Edit/Delete Message
It could also be that you're not eating enough fat. If you eat too much protein and not enough fat, you'll have trouble reaching ketosis because your body will convert the amino acids into glycogen. Eat really fatty Mondays and Tuesdays and you should be in keto by Wednesday morning. Cardio and the other suggestions will help also.

The Doctor

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Doc Ponch
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posted April 26, 2000 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Ponch   Click Here to Email Doc Ponch     Edit/Delete Message
Also, you don't have to be so restrictive on the carbs. I usually can tolerate about 50 or so grams a day. You'll have to experiment yourself. It makes life a lot easier if you can get a few carbs in. Then you can eat stuff like sugar free jello and cool whip if you're going nuts for something sweet.

The Doctor

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the truth
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posted April 27, 2000 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Oftentimes you'll only show purple on your first urination of the day, as you will be eliminating any ketones formed during a period of prolonged inactivity. If you don't turn the strips purple, you're probably burning ketones for fuel while active. In making this statement, I'm assuming you're doing the diet correctly.

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Explosive
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 27, 2000 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Explosive     Edit/Delete Message
This is what my diet looks like

Sunday moderate carbs
monday low (almost 0)
tuesday same
wend. same
thursday moderate
fri carb up
sat carb up
Sunday repeat

on a normal day i eat
8:00am omlet or scrambled eggs with ham bacon cheese sausage (ECA)
10am peice of beef jerkey
12pm steak or lunch meat like turkey or ham (ECA)
3pm chicken or steak
5pm fish (ECA)
8pm fish or chicken
10pm sausage or 3 eggs

drinkin 2 gallons of water a day maybe more

does this look ok if not what do i need to change
cardio 4 times a week
plus regular weight lifting

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Explosive
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 27, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Explosive     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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blu2u
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted April 27, 2000 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blu2u   Click Here to Email blu2u     Edit/Delete Message
Looks good to me- takes a few weeks to get in the groove. Don't worry about ketones as much- you are on track with the low carbs.

As stated- keep the fats up- I even take a couple spoonfuls of philly creme cheese b4 bed to lower insulin.

After a few weeks you will love the effects

blu

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kbp74
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posted April 27, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kbp74   Click Here to Email kbp74     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Explosive

If you want to make the FAT up trying downing some OLIVE OIL.......works for me realy well.......its strange but when I down this fat i feel hot and sweaty around 20 mins later.

But MIX it with water and take it down

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