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coolhandluke
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posted April 26, 2000 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
Ok, guys, i would like some opinions on this cycle. You will notice there is not test. I just want to see what it would be like without it. I believe that my receptors are no longer so responsive to test because of all the omnas i've taken heh heh

here it is:


deca.......dbol tabs
500mg......15 per day
500mg......14 per day
400mg......12 per day
400mg......10 per day
300mg.......8 per day
300mg.......6 per day
200mg.......4 per day
200mg.......2 per day


clomid eod or ed + 2 weeks @ 100mg per day and 2 @ 50mg. clen post cycle for three weeks.

ok, what do you guys think??????

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2Thick
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posted April 26, 2000 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Coolhand,

Like I said before, I do not think you should go over 400mg/week of deca.

D-Bol for only 6 weeks instead of 8.

Other than that you are going to get even more massive than you are now...

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Big Brother Val
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posted April 26, 2000 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Looks good to me. I personally prefer EQ to the Deca.... but that's just me. I don't think you'd need to go ed on the comid. eod should be fine. Looks good.

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Krusher
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posted April 26, 2000 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I love the high dose of D-bol! I think any veteran of the juice needs 10+ tabs a day, the only reason people don't is money. Back in the day, when you could get 100 tabs for 7 bucks, some bodybuilders would got through 2 or 3 bottles a week. They didn't even count the tabs, just took a nice healthy scoop per serving. How long have you been off test? I would consider adding Fina as well if you've done alot of juice.

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coolhandluke
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posted April 26, 2000 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
you mean you cant get 100dbol for 7 bucks anymore!!!! that sucks...well, i've been off for 10 weeks come cycle time. i may try to add some para in the end if it turns out to be real. I will know soon i hope.

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300 kleen
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posted April 26, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion, I think that you are using way too much d-bol. I would use 400mg of deca for 8 weeks, then taper for 2 more weeks. That equals a total of 10 weeks of deca. For the D-bol I would cut it down to 6 weeks. Do the same pattern with the d-bol, but with lower dosages.

D-bol is an AS that does not become more effective as the dosage goes up. You don't have to take my word for it. Check around.

300 kleen

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coolhandluke
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posted April 26, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
bump!!!

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krzysiu013
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posted April 26, 2000 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for krzysiu013   Click Here to Email krzysiu013     Edit/Delete Message
now does that mean you'll ingest 15 5mg pills a day? if so MAY GOD BLESS YOU!!! wow.

chris

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conan69
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posted April 26, 2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
i would cut the dbol to 6 weeks but i like the dosages. as for the deca i would keep a constant 400 for 8 weeks
just my input

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coolhandluke
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posted April 26, 2000 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
krzysiu- thats right 15x5mg tabs per day. You have to understand that we Poles have been conditioned by years of drinking and 75mg of dbol per day is nothing.

pozdrawiam

luke

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THESAINT
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posted April 26, 2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
OBVIOUSLY KLEEN300 has never taken d-bol.
D-bol alone was my first cycle over 20yrs.
ago. D-bol along with almost every
steroid made absolutely works better at
higher doses.

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The Ranger
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posted April 26, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
I love it when you go to the EXTREME!!! Hell yea!! the Dbol alone will give incredible pumps alone on those dosages....but, I hate Deca....hope your willie is still working afetr it's over!!....heh heh heh

Ranger

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THESAINT
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posted April 26, 2000 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Right on Ranger. I've had better results
on most everything compared with deca.
I usually use deca as the " third man"
i.e. test, d-bol, deca.

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the truth
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posted April 26, 2000 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
It's a classic stack, and you should gain off of it. I'll go along w/ the rest in saying 400 mg of Deca straight through and
d-bol for 5-6 weeks (at slightly higher doses). I'm sure you've got plenty of clomid, so your johnson should be OK.

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Doc Ponch
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posted April 26, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Ponch   Click Here to Email Doc Ponch     Edit/Delete Message
Why is everyone suggesting to cut the time on d-bol. I'm starting a test/d-bol/eq (at lower dosages than cool!) cycle on June 1 and I was looking to go straight through 8 weeks with all of them. I would think if anything, one might taper off the injectables towards the end and come off the d-bol last, as it's an oral with a short half life. What's the concern? Liver toxicity?

The Doctor

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Juicer56
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posted April 26, 2000 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
where's the test????

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300 kleen
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posted April 26, 2000 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
THESAINT,

Like I said in my post, you do not have to take my word for it. Do some research and experiment on yourself. I was a little ambiguous in my response. After about 40mg/ day there is no added benefit except cirrhosis of the liver.

Just 30 years ago bodybuilders would not exceed 15mg/ day. Yes, even the all famous Arnold. Why? Well, because it�s not necessary. Steroids are used as a catalyst to training; they are not a replacement. Eat right, Train hard, and supplement your training with some gear. There is no need for 15 tabs of d-bol a day.

I guess we have a difference of opinion. That�s okay because that�s what this board is all about.

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Steriod_Virgin
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posted April 26, 2000 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steriod_Virgin   Click Here to Email Steriod_Virgin     Edit/Delete Message
Is there really a difference between 90mg of dbol a day and say even 50mg? Im just a virgin, but christ.. 16 dbols a day holyshit. Why dont you just take 1 anadrol a day instead of 16 dbol? I thought it was just hype when I read some people have been known to take up to 100 dbols a week. Not that I have any right to critique you, but dude, Im just worried about your health.

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coolhandluke
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posted April 27, 2000 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
well here's what i believe:

if its ok for someone to be on two abombs a day then why cant someone take 20dbol? I mean, the gains will probably be better and there will be fewer sides. If you guys want, i will get off the dbol if i start to turn yellow,deal?

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300 kleen
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posted April 27, 2000 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds good, Luke.

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Dexter
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posted April 27, 2000 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Luke, I'm a bit surprised really, even if it is considered "a classic stack." I'm no expert on cycles, and I don't know what your previous cycles were like, but, geez, there's a lot of good gear out there besides deca and D-bol...What are you looking to accomplish? And keep?

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coolhandluke
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posted April 27, 2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
dexter,

Well, I just want a good cycle that will give me 15 pounds of muscle and a bunch of strength. I have never done deca before (i did a little durabolin in the past)and i would like to see if there is any validity to the concept of a cycle without test. I know i can get any drug i really want now but whats the point of stacking ten different drugs? That way i wont know what works for me. Lets just say its an experiment. If it doesnt work i will go on a 750mg sust, 30mgdbol, 400mg deca, 228 para, winny eod cycle like everybody else : )

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THESAINT
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posted April 27, 2000 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
300 KLEEN, It's all good here bro, just a difference of opinion. I have cycled d-bol
approx. 20 times. I get much more size on
10 a day than on 5 a day. The theory is
over saturation creates new receptors.
This was one of the late Dan Duchaines
theories.

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