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 Post cycle clomid thearpy no worries w\ estrogen?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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are the natural test levels up enough after the 100mg ed 1st week after and 50 mg a week 2nd week after cycle to not worry about estrogen levels?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1097 |
Estrogen will be worse post cycle and clomid will do nothing to block estrogen receptors in any tissue other than the hypothalamus: clomid will not prevent gyno or other symptoms of excess estrogen. Make sure you use proviron or armidex while coming off of a cycle. -Stew | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
I have not seen any cycle usages post cycle for proviron and nolvadex. how much and how long after my last shot should i be taking them? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 152 |
Clomid will block Estrogen receptors, it will combines with estrogen receptors, thus decreasing the number of available receptor sites. Through negative feedback, the hypothalamus and pituitary are thus stimulated to increase secretion of LH and FSH it can't works without block estrogen receptors, LH & FSH can't be increased without this process reference : | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 152 |
Proviron should not be used after the cycle, it will do nothing for keeping Estrogen low when you're not using Anabolic Steroids, it will just prevent Steroids from aromatising & will not decrease Estrogen level by it self, and especially while Testosterone level after any cycle is low, then there is a very little chances for aromatising, just Estrogen level will be increased due to the inhibition of some hormones as Testosterone, but when Estrogen level increased it might bind to Estrogen receptors therefor either Clomid or Nolvadex is very important after every cycle for many reasons | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
muchas gracias bro | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 347 |
Don't even worry about it unless you feel the gyno coming on. Use the clomid post cycle, but not for estrogen blockage! If you need to use Nolva's or Armidex for gyno symptoms. Cheers, Jay | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 179 |
Clomid will block estrogen sides and also bring your own test production back to normal! Mg for mg it's not as good nolv. but it works and works well! ------------------ Maxx >>>>> | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
Thanks for the replies! I made a post a few days ago and got nottin. I was starting to feel like a red-headed step child. (I do have red hair when it is not bleached) | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2281 |
The way I understood it, clomid does work as an anti-estrogen and isn't as effective as Nolvadex but will help some.. but thats just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. Thats just what i've always been told by the "roid-heads" at my gym.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1097 |
Clomid will not bind to estrogen receptors outside of the hypothalamus. Clomid was NOT designed as an antiestrogen. It is NOT a drug used to treat breast cancer. Clomid is a fertility drug. It works to produce fertile eggs by selectively binding to estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus. Since it is selective, it allows the production of a fertile egg which. By binding to ER in the hypothalamus, it stimulates the release of LH and FSH. FSH or folicile stimulating hormone, is required for the formation of a mature egg. LH stimulates the overies in females to produce estrogen which allows for the mature egg to become encapsulated. LH in males, stimulates the leydig cells of the testicles to produce testosterone. FSH in males stimulates the visceral cells to produce semen. Clomid's selective binding affinities are what causes it to differ from Nolvadex which WILL bind to estrogen receptors throguhout the body and would thereby terminate pregnancy and is slightly affective for birthcontrol (since a fertile egg can not be produced if estrogen is blocked). SECONDLY: THIRDLY: Proviron 50mg/day; HCG 5000iu/week; Clomid 100/50/25.
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posted April 25, 2001 09:13 PM