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Jered

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posted April 25, 2001 02:51 PM

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At what age did Arnold start using juice? Please back up your claims with a source of some sort(don't just guess).
Did he ever use testosterone in his early years(i.e. prior to 1980) or did he just use the orals like d-bol and anadrol? I have personally read that he used only d-bol and anadrol and that that is why he never got that harsh look that alot of guys have nowadays from using to much testosterone.


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Munzer

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posted April 25, 2001 03:13 PM

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I heard that he juiced the very first day
he started lifting at about age 16. I'm not sure about the A-bombs but I do know he took handfulls of D-bol like candy each day . His
favorite stack was supposedly D-bol and
Primobolan Depot. This sounds like a pretty good combo ,one being androgenic with high anabolic qualities while the second is purely anabolic .
Later Munzer


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Jered

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posted April 25, 2001 04:47 PM

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He never really used much testosterone did he?


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posted April 25, 2001 05:24 PM

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Speculate all you want ... none of you know, or will ever know for sure. Nuff Said.

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pitboy

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posted April 26, 2001 01:01 AM

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exactly!


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nyironman

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posted April 26, 2001 01:08 AM

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heard from an associate of his that he popped dbals like candy.


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Jered

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posted April 26, 2001 01:41 AM

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You can read the unofficial biography about him that he has done an almost perfect job of keeping off the bookshelves (for political reasons). It claims he started using very young (I asssume non aromatizing aas or else he would have been a little short guy). I believe he stayed away from testosterone because back in his day the idea was that it was extremely toxic and could not be used in high dosages for an extended period of time.


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bigpun

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posted April 26, 2001 02:23 AM

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Jered, I would love to get my hands on that biography. What's its title? Where did you find it?


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posted April 26, 2001 03:24 AM

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THE UN TRUE BIOGRAPHERS NAME IS WENDY LEIGH....

YOU GUYS DONT KNOW SHIT IF YOU THINK ARNOLD JUICED EARLY AS 16.PROVE IT AND ILL BELEIVE IT.HE LOOKS BETTER THAN ANY CURRENT BODYBUILDER.FUCKING UNPROPORTIONED ROID GUT FOOLS.ANYWAY,READ THIS AND YOU WILL SEE HOW CREDIBLE WENDY LEIGH IS........
August 8, 1997

Sly Accused of Trashing Ah-nuld


A journalist claims that in 1988 Sylvester Stallone gave her the tip that exposed Arnold Schwarzenegger's father as a member of the Nazi party--and even fronted her $450,000 for legal fees when Schwarzenegger sued her for libel. Wendy Leigh alleges in the July 27 edition of London's Sunday Mail magazine that Stallone learned of the secret past of the Schwarzenegger family during his brief marriage to Brigitte Nielsen, who had also dated the former Mr. Universe. Leigh claims that Stallone was upset that Schwarzenegger, whose action career was on the rise, was making cracks about him publicly: "It's a shame no one taught him to be cool." Ouch.


She says that Stallone, afraid he would be exposed as the story's source, offered to pay her legal fees after Arnold filed suit against her and London's News of the World for falsely reporting that he admired his father's politics and shared his anti-Semitism. In 1993, Leigh apologized to Arnold and paid an undisclosed settlement.


None of this is sitting well with Stallone. His lawyer tells the New York Post that the article is "totally false." "I've reviewed the piece and we're investigating pursuing legal action against her," said attorney Martin Singer. "In our opinion, she is a woman who has no credibility. The story is totally false; utter nonsense."



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Jered

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posted April 26, 2001 03:36 AM

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There are a shit load of books about Arnold's life. ALot of them are pure BS crap. THe specific one that I am talking about is supposed to be very accurate, intelligent and revealing but I forgot what the specific title is. IT is supposed to be very hard to find, if not impossible. It has alot of bad and intimate stuff in it about old arnold that he didn;t like and didnt want out. Its by some woman who spent alot of time and effort researching his life (I guess she had a crush on him).

THere are alot of nonsesne, basic info, nothing special so called unathoarized biographies that have been published just to make a quick buck. "Arnold Schwarzenegger: Unauthorized biography" by B.S. Watson is an example. Don;t waste tour money on these things they are utter crap.


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posted April 26, 2001 03:41 AM

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In the book is written that nobody knows how many he used, because he did not count it. Just handful of Dbols several times a day.

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Jered

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posted April 26, 2001 03:41 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by THE STEEL BEAST:
[B]THE UN TRUE BIOGRAPHERS NAME IS WENDY LEIGH....

YOU GUYS DONT KNOW SHIT IF YOU THINK ARNOLD JUICED EARLY AS 16.PROVE IT AND ILL BELEIVE IT.HE LOOKS BETTER THAN ANY CURRENT BODYBUILDER.FUCKING UNPROPORTIONED ROID GUT FOOLS.


I don;t understand, you don;t beleive that Arnold Schwarzenegger ever used steroids? YOu don;t think roids are good? I really dont' understand. Why do you have 2000+ posts on a discussion board about steroids if you think this?


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madmitch

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posted April 26, 2001 04:10 AM

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I have talked to a Pro who's Uncle was good friends with Arnold, Platz, etc and they told me "Arnold never trained without them".

In other words from day one.


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Jered

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posted April 26, 2001 04:24 AM

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All I can say is that judging by his sizeble ahh er breast mass in his most recent film "THE 6th day" (a very good movie by the way, one of arnold's best in a while, not seen by many though), he is still using and going strong after all these years.


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nexus7

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posted April 26, 2001 04:31 AM

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slightly off topic but if the guy's favourite stack was supposedly Dbol/primo - and he took so much of the Dbol, how the fuck did he keep the gyno off and still benefit from the primo (knowing anti estrogens the likes of Nolva hinder primo gains)


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Jered

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posted April 26, 2001 04:39 AM

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I think the claims about his dbol use are very exxagerated. However I do know that he had several gyno surgeries.
BTW--this idea that you shouldn't use nolva because it hinders gains is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. If you are that lazy you deserve boobs.


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nexus7

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posted April 26, 2001 04:56 AM

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JERED : Nolva does not hinder gains in androgenic steroids but rather certain anabolics the likes of Primobolan - I was not mistaking water retention for 'gains' if thats what you re refering to...

Search for the post that treats this topic if you dont believe me...


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Starski

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posted April 26, 2001 06:25 AM

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I have no idea what Arnold took or takes but I do remember looking through his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding just the other night and there is a side view of him in his earlier years that seems to show a nice case of gyno, its a black and white pic with him standing with another guy with one arm held high.

So maybe his use of D-Bol did take it's toll...

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posted April 26, 2001 08:48 AM

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Apparently I have offended an Arnold fan with just hear say but to each his own I guess. I will remove my comments, As for the guy with arnolds tittie in his mouth, you can calm down now Jr. You have email too.

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gUiLe

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posted April 26, 2001 09:22 AM

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toolarge4poo! I think the only one around
here who is the bullshit artist is YOU! Yeah,
I am sure he hit on your wife, get a fuckin
clue! Ya think anybody is really gonna beleive that story? I am sure you would like
them to, but do you really think they will?
Yeah, he was part of a Nazi experiment by
his father. Bro, why don't you just go jerkoff to Pumping Iron and leave it at that!
The guys a bodybuilding icon! He ALWAYS will
be considered one of the greats. What the fuck have you done???????


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nexus7

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posted April 26, 2001 09:30 AM

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LMAO - post a question about juice and Arnold and you wind up finding posts on Nazi theories, adultery, Nazi testing - perhaps murder and intrigue too very soon - this is hilarious !


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Big Brother Val

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posted April 26, 2001 09:47 AM

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You guys are wrong. They had her mother hooked up to test via IV when he was still in the womb.
They crushed d-bol tabs into a fine powder, and sprinkled it in his bottle as a baby, and on his cereal as a child.
He still takes 400 mgs of d-bol 6 times a day.

Buncha atheists in here.
No one knows.
No one will.

Shit... I'm curious too. Because he's what I wanna look like... but quit throwin' shit around.


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posted April 26, 2001 09:52 AM

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their was an interview with arnie on tv here in england a couple years back, he said he moved to england ,in his 20's , he lived with a family who owned a gym and they lived right on top of it, and he would eat every hour on the hour...and at the end of the day if he hadn't gained a pound, he would eat again..


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This may answer some questions. Gyno surgery? Several times? Get real! Gyno surgery was probably still experimental, at best, back then and his nips are too clean like he NEVER had it. He is also too tall to have been on something as androgenic as "handfulls of dbol a day" since 16. Some of you are really talking out of your ass...

"BDJ: Could you relay your own experience with drug use?


SO: This is an area of great interest for people. I don't care who wants to take steroids, because that's a personal choice... that's his life. Now, today, everybody has access to them. I even saw in one of the big magazines that Arnold denies having used them, but Arnold was one of the first to bring steroids over to America. And everybody in the old days used them: Zane, Columbu, myself, Arnold, Larry Scott, Harold Poole, Dave Draper, and even Steve Reeves. There's no way to deny it. It wasn't much, nothing like today. But the development of drugs is much different. I used decca and dianabol, and that was something really big at the time; and decca was not considered that bad. It was even prescribed by doctors to help make your bones strong. Today you have guys weighing 200 pounds, and six months later they weigh 250-300 pounds! So you know these guys are taking something unbelievable. When they say they haven't taken any thing, you know that it's phony.


BDJ: I could only imagine what you would look like if you have access to the drugs of today.


SO: Geez... I wouldn't even want to think about it. My God... (laughter). We used to talk about the big deal of taking decca and dianabol. Now the talk is about growth hormone. I see what they are using... the way they look... I tell you, it's scary... I would pass on that. Anybody can go work out and get a physique without steroids, and that is what I recommend. The drugs today is not worth the money or the way it makes you look. The consequences later are going to be big.


BDJ: I notice a lot of people take steroids because they are too lazy to train hard � mostly teenage boys.


SO: Yes that's what it is. But they're making a double mistake. When you take steroids you have to train even harder... otherwise the excess weight later turns into fat. If you train hard, eat well with quality protein, and take a good vitamin and mineral, then you can achieve a good physique. And a good physique comes from about 45% of your genes, whereas the rest is from training. So, if you're going to be something, then you're going to be something. If you're not, then you're not. But with all those steroids, you're going to be one of the group... you're not going to be different. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone... to my friends or any of my family." - Conversation With Sergio Oliva

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posted April 26, 2001 11:59 AM

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On the Gyno issue, not everyone is prone to gyno. Some men do not have the receptors in the breast that are effected buy estrogen. Like women who have large or small breasts. More or less receptors.

The man had the genetics we all dream of having. He was unbelievable dedicated.

On anti-estrogens affecting his steroid gains, From what I understand they didn't have em' back then.

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posted April 26, 2001 12:37 PM

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Good points made in that post, Swollen.


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