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Jan

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posted April 25, 2001 04:08 AM

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I am very interested if somebody will know this ester: ISOBUTYRAS

I have one steroid, it is Testosteroni isobutyras, 25 mg in 1 ml microstalline water suspension.

Is it similar to Propionate, etc ... ???

Thanks

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Jafar

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posted April 25, 2001 04:30 AM

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This is Test Propionate. Same thing, diferent language. Most common trade name is Agovirin. 25 mg/ml and I think it's from Czechoslovakia, but don't quote me on that. It's just in a water suspension instead of an oil.

If I'm wrong here, somebody correct me please...

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Jan

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posted April 25, 2001 04:36 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Jafar:
This is Test Propionate. Same thing, diferent language. Most common trade name is Agovirin. 25 mg/ml and I think it's from Czechoslovakia, but don't quote me on that. It's just in a water suspension instead of an oil.

If I'm wrong here, somebody correct me please...

[This message has been edited by Jafar (edited April 25, 2001).]


In former Czechoslovakia was Agovirin maden in the past by Leciva, a.s., it WAS propionate. Now it is AGOVIRIN DEPOT, made by BIOTIKA in Slovakia, but there is written just ISOBUTYRAS.

I think it can be propionate, but I have heard that ISOBUTYRAS is longer acting ester than propionate for few days.
I want to be sure, it is cheap and real steroid. If you let it stand, it has same powder effect like Winstrol Depot.

Any help???

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the truth

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posted April 25, 2001 04:45 AM

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It's an esterification with isobutyric acid. It's not the same structure as propionic acid, but I think it would work about the same, as it's a fast-acting ester.


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Jan

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posted April 25, 2001 08:09 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by the truth:
It's an esterification with isobutyric acid. It's not the same structure as propionic acid, but I think it would work about the same, as it's a fast-acting ester.

So, same as propionate schedule like 300 mg every 3-5 days ?

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posted April 26, 2001 04:49 AM

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Jan

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posted April 26, 2001 05:34 AM

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Ok, you seemed to do not know like me.

Anyway, by using what we know, do you think this steroid would be good choice to use for site injections (biceps, triceps) for better site grow?

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Weam

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posted April 26, 2001 05:46 AM

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Isobutyric acid "isobutyrate ester" is little longer acting that Propionic acid "Propionate" as Isobutyrate having 4 carbon atoms while Propionate having 3 carbon atoms
the greater the carbon's number the longer time for taking the ester to get de-esterified


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Jan

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posted April 26, 2001 06:23 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Weam:
Isobutyric acid "isobutyrate ester" is little longer acting that Propionic acid "Propionate" as Isobutyrate having 4 carbon atoms while Propionate having 3 carbon atoms
the greater the carbon's number the longer time for taking the ester to get de-esterified

Thanks, finally what I needed.

Anyway, what about to use it for site injections? Better than propionate for this? It is in water, so is it better for this?

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