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Cool Novice 
Posts: 26 |
I have asked but beg for some help...I am new to the world of anabolics...in the past I took a cycle of Primobolan Tabs and liked them. They were nothing big but still saw some strength gains. I am admitting that I am total novice and need some advice. I want to start with something like an oral and then maybe an injectable soon after, but don't have a clue what I should take. I want to try to avoid any gyno which I know I can use clomid and nolvadex for so I am not too worried about that. I just acquired a bottle of Reforvit B and a bottle of Winstrol Stanazolic and will have a bottle of EQ soon. I know very little and was wondering what I could take to get solid gains with not too much water retention. I know all the stuff at GNC is pretty much junk and I want to do a cycle like mad ...please help with some advice brothers. Sorry to sound so novice, but I want to learn and get big.     | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
I'm still learning every day conrad, but from what I have learned...the 3 you mentioned with some test. sounds like a great stack to me. I'm about to do a sus, winny, EQ stack myself ! I would like to add d-bol to mine as well. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 113 |
The absolute best advice I can give you is to use the search function of this board. This place has archives, use'em! That way you can see how others reacted to certain things, and what they wanted to get out of their usage. Then, you can make an educated decision for yourself as to what/how much/etc. Just plug in a word or two, and go from there. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 26 |
Thanks Carnie | ||
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Mutant   
Posts: 3362 |
You need to do a testosterone based run to start off. Go to http://profiles.elitefitness.com/mostpopular.html for up to date info on a lot of popular anabolics. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
Stay away from testosterone. It,by far, produces the worst side effects. Stick to all the wonderful synthetic versions of testosterone that our chemist friends have brought to us in order to minimize side effects of the parent drug. I'd use the reforvit b with the winstrol. That would be a nice cycle. I personaly don't like eq bt alot of guys do. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1465 |
What are you talking about test having the worse sides!! Damn Newbies and shitty advice! Try a Test at low doses like sus and maybe some eq or d-bol if you want tabs. No way around injections either bro, but they are worth it! Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
Umm, far from it my friend Jared. Testosterone isn't nearly as hard on the body as Anadrol or Fina. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
People who use test get abnormaly big nipples alot of the time. I would never do more than 300mg a week unless you want that big thuggish look or some version of the modern day BB look. I personalyy go for more of a normal, athletic model look but if that's not for you then bring on the big dosages of test and be like mass monster. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1465 |
well Nebie your wrong again the sides for test between 250mg -1000mg are generally the same. Keep trying and do some reading before someone listens to your bad advice! Mass Monster | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
quote: WHere did you get this idea? It is not true from my own personal experience. THat might be true for you but not for other people. ALso, just because I am new to this board doesn't mean that you know more than I do. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1465 |
Wsure you may know a thing or two but, just don't be giving out bad advice. And yes sides are basically the same for 250-1000mg. I don't care if you believe me or not but thats how it is and many bro's will support this! I been around I know and I am trying to help so if you live in your little world of test having the worst sides and 300mg is a safe does you don't know jack! And as for those puffy nips you are so worried about can be taken care of if people take precautions and learn what the HELL THEY ARE DOING!!! Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 142 |
HAHAHA I LOVE READING POSTS. first of all, i dont know why you want to do orals then injectables later. orals are harder on the body than injectables, especially dbol. a good stack for your first would be a simple deca & sust or eq & sust. forget about that puffy nipple bullshit. your not going to do more than 500mg sust and about 300mg deca or eq. keep a bottle of nolv on hand. if you use eq, you will have a more hard muscle look rather than a bloated look of deca. good luck! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 26 |
I got to agree with Mass Monster on that one I may be a novice user but I know some of what I am talking about and with Clomid and Nolvadex you can prevent a lot of the side affects like Gyno. I just thought to start I would like to stay away from injection to begin with and then on a second cycle hit the test. Plus I already have the Ref-b and the Winstrol so I kind of wanted to use that. Man I don't know what to think. But I will say that your probably safer shooting real test than taking fuckin androstein. Peace out Bro's | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
I am just saying what works for me. I have used 500mg of test and I have used 1000mg of test and then I have used only 300mg of test along with other less androgenic/non aromatizing stuff. I liked the last option the most and that is what I am passing on. At 500mg I got slightly ithcy nipples. At 1 gram I got horrbile itchy nipples even with the arimidex which I was taking. The week and a half after I used the gram was awful, just this terrible pain in my nipples. I was ready to pull the fukcers right off it got so bad, and this was all with the arimidex that I was taking which I was told by others would take care of any type of itchines/pain in the nipples presto chango. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1465 |
Yea bro I would go with the ref-b and winny and put the test in for a solid base to help you gain! Run it for 8-10 weeks and maybe some eq would be great! Also injecting is the only way to go and you need the test! Go for it bro. Mass Monster | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1071 |
i feel the same as you Mass Monster...your advice and posts were right on since your first reply in this thread ------------------
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
Reforvit B and Winstrol are both hard on your liver. I don�t think I would want to take both at the same time. A lot of the suggested cycles you will find when searching the archives have the D-bol in the first 4 weeks and the winny running at the end. Of course they also have Test running the full time. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
you all don't know what you are talking about. More test=more estrogen=more potential for side effects. Simple as that. ALot of you vets at this board have very rigid ideas about what is right and wrong when it comes to as even though these ideas are pretty arbitrary. |
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posted April 25, 2001 03:38 AM