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George Stark

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posted April 24, 2001 08:10 PM

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Please review this cycle I tried to set it up as a cutting into bulk cycle.. I am at week 5 and I have replaced the Armidiex in the cycle with Liquidex I just received some today. As I get closer to the bulking phase I look to the board for some opinions. I have arranged the end of the cycle as a bridge and I plan to do the whole cycle twice. Thanks in advance for you advice.

GS

WK******T-3**********EQ*******Test Enanthate********Dbal******Clomid**Liquidex
1******12.5mcg******200mg WK************************************************
2****25mcg (1-5 D)***200mg WK************************************************
3***50mcg (5-10 D)***200mg WK************************************************
****75mcg (11-15 D)***********************************************************
4**100mcg (16-25 D)**200mg WK***********************************************
5***75mcg (26-30 D)**200mg WK***********************************************
6***50mcg (31-35 D)**200mg WK***********************************************
7****25mcg*********500 mg WK***750mg WK********40mg ED**********.25ml ED*
8****25mcg*********400 mg WK***750mg WK********40mg ED**********.25ml ED*
9****12.5 mcg*******400 mg WK***750mg WK********40mg ED**********.25ml ED*
10***12.5 mcg*******400 mg WK***750mg WK********40mg ED**********.25ml ED*
11****6.25 mcg******400 mg WK***750mg WK********30mg ED**********.25ml ED*
12****6.25 mcg******400 mg WK***750mg WK**************************.25ml ED*
13*****************400 mg WK***750mg WK**************************.25ml ED*
14*****************400 mg WK***750mg WK**************************.25ml ED*
15*****************400 mg WK***750mg WK**************************.25ml ED*
16*****************400 mg WK***750mg WK**************************.25ml ED*
17*****************200 mg WK**************************************.25ml ED*
18*****************200 mg WK**************************************.25ml ED*
19*****************200 mg WK**************************************.25ml ED*
20*****************200 mg WK******************************100mg ED*******
21*****************200 mg WK******************************100mg ED*******
22*****************200 mg WK******************************50mg ED********
23*****************200 mg WK******************************50mg ED********
Repeat

Liquidex is 4mg/ml Anastrozole
In week 19 I will take 300mg Clomid on the last day of the week.


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Slopain

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posted April 24, 2001 08:27 PM

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Well that T-3 is extended more than Id like to see for sure, but it looks like you you tried to hit it hard so I wont lecture you on all that I assume you know what your doing. The EQ at the begining looks low it looks like maybe you were just trying to maintain muscle mass while cutting??

Then you hit it in week 7 at the bulker I like the test, I like the dbol, I like the EQ, I like the liquidex, still have that T3 in there thats the only thing Im wary of. Then you take it out to a long cycle followed by a bridge with clomid to get things running again.

Looks thought out - and Im sure you will gain if you keep the most important part of the equation right DIET.


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TxLonghorn

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posted April 24, 2001 08:49 PM

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Now I could certainly be wrong about this, but I keep reading how EQ will shut down natural test. And I thought the reason for a bridge was to try to keep gains while your body was resuming it's natural test. And that is why people are always using low doses of primo (200mg/wk) or anavar to bridge.

Like I said, I could very well be wrong, I just keep seeing references to Eq shutting down the hpta more than people realize. If that is the case, then it might be best to start clomid about 2 weeks after the last eq shot.

And now, I will do searches for eq and suppression, lol.


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TxLonghorn

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posted April 24, 2001 08:57 PM

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Yeah, just did a search, and here is a post made by (one of my faves) ulter:

"Sorry Bros but bridging with EQ will not allow your natural test to restart. Not even at 300mg/wk. I tried it and I have the bloodwork to prove it doesn't work. After 6 weeks of EQ my LH was as close to zero as you can get. So far the only AS that I have used that will allow your HPTA to restart is Oxandrolone."

I don't know what dosage for the ox, but I have read about the 200mg/primo/wk works. You might want to do your own research on this, but given this info, I would think there are a few options:
1) switch out eq for primo/anavar
2) ditch the bridge and go balls immediately
3) not change a thing because ulter is kinda shifty anyways, lol

[This message has been edited by TxLonghorn (edited April 24, 2001).]


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George Stark

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posted April 25, 2001 01:02 AM

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I appreciate the info on the EQ. This is something I will keep in mind I will also do a search to read up on this. Before I started this cycle I completed an 8 wk 75mgEOD Tren and 50mg EOD winny cycle. I waited 1 week after my last shot and hit the Clomid and the EQ 200mg wk. After the Clomid therapy 4 weeks total I too had my blood tests done and my test levels were real close to normal. So I don�t know what to think maybe this is another case of every one reacts differently to gear.

Hey, I appreciate the help. It looks like you and Slopain are the only bros that are willing to help.

Thanks,

GS


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George Stark

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posted April 25, 2001 09:21 AM

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lets get this back on the first page.

GS


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Slopain

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posted April 25, 2001 11:15 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by TxLonghorn:
Yeah, just did a search, and here is a post made by (one of my faves) ulter:

[b]"Sorry Bros but bridging with EQ will not allow your natural test to restart. Not even at 300mg/wk. I tried it and I have the bloodwork to prove it doesn't work. After 6 weeks of EQ my LH was as close to zero as you can get. So far the only AS that I have used that will allow your HPTA to restart is Oxandrolone."

I don't know what dosage for the ox, but I have read about the 200mg/primo/wk works. You might want to do your own research on this, but given this info, I would think there are a few options:
1) switch out eq for primo/anavar
2) ditch the bridge and go balls immediately
3) not change a thing because ulter is kinda shifty anyways, lol

[This message has been edited by TxLonghorn (edited April 24, 2001).][/B]


Actually some people can use up to 400-500 mg/week EQ and still bounce back their natural test levels. Ulter was relaying HIS experience with it - and his doesnt apply to everyone. Anavar (oxandralone) can be bridged at almost any effective dose without touching that endogenous testosterone production, and primobolan at 300mg/week and below will also do well. The catch? They are both expensive - the solution: EQ at low dosages. The majority of the people can easily bounce back test levels from 200-300mg/week.

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George Stark

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posted April 25, 2001 02:10 PM

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I am going to bump this back upp for more opinions I know all you fucker havean opinion.

GS


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Mike80

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posted April 25, 2001 03:27 PM

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George, first off thanks for your help. Now my criticism is, 12 weeks is a little long to stay on T3 I would cut it down to 6 weeks at the end of your cycle to cut up. The cycle would look like this:

wks---d-bol---test----eq----T3
1------40-----1000----600-----
2------40-----750-----400-----
3------40-----750-----400-----
4------40-----750-----400-----
5------40-----750-----400-----
6-------------750-----400-----
7-------------750-----400---50
8-------------750-----400---75
9-------------750-----400---100
10------------750-----400---75
11--------------------400---50
12--------------------400---25

You can use the liquidex as outlined in your plan. The reason I altered you plan is I don't think 200mg eq is going to stop t3 from going catabolic for the first six weeks. If you really wanted to taper down like you said you can extend the T3 to 8 weeks and use 12.5 and 6.25 for weeks 7 and 8. I would bridge with 200mg primo for six weeks and maybe some anavar and go back on a heavy test cycle after that. I also like big doses in the first week to saturate receptors, and get it in your system fast. I think by cutting the first 6 weeks out of this cycle you will get bigger and keep more of your gains, while still cutting up at the end of your cycle. If you need anymore help email me.


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posted April 25, 2001 03:29 PM

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George, first off thanks for your help. Now my criticism is, 12 weeks is a little long to stay on T3 I would cut it down to 6 weeks at the end of your cycle to cut up. The cycle would look like this:

wks---d-bol---test----eq----T3
1------40-----1000----600-----
2------40-----750-----400-----
3------40-----750-----400-----
4------40-----750-----400-----
5------40-----750-----400-----
6-------------750-----400-----
7-------------750-----400---50
8-------------750-----400---75
9-------------750-----400---100
10------------750-----400---75
11--------------------400---50
12--------------------400---25

You can use the liquidex as outlined in your plan. The reason I altered you plan is I don't think 200mg eq is going to stop t3 from going catabolic for the first six weeks. If you really wanted to taper down like you said you can extend the T3 to 8 weeks and use 12.5 and 6.25 for weeks 7 and 8. I would bridge with 200mg primo for six weeks and maybe some anavar and go back on a heavy test cycle after that. I also like big doses in the first week to saturate receptors, and get it in your system fast. I think by cutting the first 6 weeks out of this cycle you will get bigger and keep more of your gains, while still cutting up at the end of your cycle. If you need anymore help email me.


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George Stark

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posted April 25, 2001 04:11 PM

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GERLANDIDA What the fuck are you thinking source posting in the middle of my post?
I am having a hard enough time getting replys to it as it is.
Now some mod is going to come and delete my post.
I'll I have to say is this "FUCK YOU" and I hope the mods ban you quick!!!!!!

GS


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George Stark

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posted April 26, 2001 10:24 AM

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Bump
1 more time.

GS


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Stew Meat

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posted April 26, 2001 07:22 PM

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Stop the EQ one week before the Enthanate. If you want to bridge, use primo. Run the Armidex throughout the cycle from the start of the EQ (if you have enough money, otherwise, start it at the first test/eq week) then run throughout the weeks till one week post clomid/hcg therapy.

Never run the EQ longer than the test. You are not injecting enough AS to get an anabolic response and are merely delaying the onset of your HPTA wich will cause it to take longer to recover and forfeit your gains.

-Stew


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Stew Meat

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posted April 27, 2001 12:23 AM

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Why not throw in some ECA/Clen and/or some PGF2A in there durng the latter part starting after the test.


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