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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 09:12 AM

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In the WAR book it says that using Nolvadex and/or Proviron with anabolics like Winny, Primo, etc.. will reduce it's anabolic effect.
Is there any truth to that?? I am looking for guys with some personal experience.


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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 11:08 AM

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BUMP
Anybody know this???


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Fonz

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posted April 24, 2001 11:16 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by e-man:
In the WAR book it says that using Nolvadex and/or Proviron with anabolics like Winny, Primo, etc.. will reduce it's anabolic effect.
Is there any truth to that?? I am looking for guys with some personal experience.



IMPOSSSIBLE with Winny. Nolvadex has been said
to reduce GH and IGF-1(and hence gains). I disagree
but the studies are there. However, stanozolol has NO
EFFECT ON GH OR IGF-1 as it primarily works through
non-AR mediated mechanisms. Same thing with proviron,
as it has no effect on stanozolol's effectiveness.

Primo would be affected though as it works though
AR-mediated mechanisms.

Godspeed


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nexus7

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posted April 24, 2001 11:16 AM

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I would be very interested in knowing too !

MODS VETS ?


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Cornellius

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posted April 24, 2001 11:21 AM

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You�ll hear diferent opinions. I believe that since while on nolva/proviron you�ll gain less weight (because you�re not gaining water), that makes people to think that they are gaining less.
On the other hand water can be very beneficial to gain streng, and the stronger you are, the more you can stimulate the muscles.


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Cornellius

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posted April 24, 2001 11:31 AM

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The explanation above was for aromatizeing (sp?) roids.


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Fonz

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posted April 24, 2001 11:32 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Cornellius:
The explanation above was for aromatizeing (sp?) roids.


"aromatizing"

Godspeed


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bleedo

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posted April 24, 2001 11:37 AM

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...never needed nolva or proviron with winny...

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nexus7

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posted April 24, 2001 11:37 AM

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this means Dbol/primo stacks could quickly become Primo only cycles if you dont want gyno...that sucks!


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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 12:33 PM

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Fonz,

Take a look in the book and you will see what I am talking about.
In terms reducing the effect due to water retention, Winny does not make you retain much water so it cannot be compared to a Test/D-bol..


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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 03:32 PM

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Common somone has to have some experience with this.
Where are all those guys that took Winny with Nolvadex to treat gyno????


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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 03:36 PM

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Common somone has to have some experience with this.
Where are all those guys that took Winny with Nolvadex???


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lawnsaver

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posted April 24, 2001 04:47 PM

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E-man, there are none! Winny doesnt aromatize at any dose. Why would anyone take nolvadex with it. Some take proviron with it and love the results. 50mg of winny and 75mg of proviron is what I've seen. The proviron is used for its light androgenic properties.

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e-man

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posted April 24, 2001 05:00 PM

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Lawnsaver,
I am taking Nolva with the Winny to get rid of some puffy nipps. I just wanted to know if it is going to affect the Winny.
That's all!


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