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WarriorsCode1979

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From:buena park,CA,USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted April 24, 2001 04:17 AM

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Hey guys, Please help me..any insight would be greatly appreciated...I am totally not experienced with steroid useage but i have read alot of stuff from this forum,other sites, T-mag..etc. ok ok..I got some questions,,first of all i've never used any gear before , but i have naturally occuring gyno...slight puffy nipples. Basically i want to do a Very short cycle.. 2 weeks..i don't really care about gaining 30lbs of muscle in a month...i'll be satisfied with a 5 - 10lb gain of quality muscle..with very little or no side effects...also i only want to use only orals..yeah i know they're more harsh on tha liver..but fuck it...anyways..this is the cycle i had in mind...PLEASE CRITIQUE IT..ANY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE feedback would be greatly appreciated..thank you.

Oh yeah before i start i'm 21 years old
14percent bodyfat 175lbs.

ok here's tha cycle

Winstrol tabs 30mg/ day
anavar (oxandrolone) tabs 35mg/day
Dbol tabs 10mg/day
Primobolan tabs 20mg/day
Arimidex tabs 1/4mg /every other day
Clomid tabs 25mg/ day
Proscar 1.25mg/ day
Saw Pallmetto 480mg/ day
ALL THIS FOR TWO WEEKS

and then, Clomid,Arimidex,Saw Pallmetto,METHOXY-7 by biotst..for another 2-4 weeks.


GOAL: 5-10LBS MUSCLE WITH LITTLE OR NO SIDE EFFECTS.

I'll be eating
350- 400 grams of protein
400grams of clean carbs
1 gallon of water
lots of fiber
lots of flax oil and fish oil caps

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECITED

OH YA,
i thank all you guys who answered my emails..much love.

peace.
-ALi.

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I've worked too damn hard climbing tha top of tha food chain to become a freakin vegetarian.


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The Iron Game

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posted April 24, 2001 04:53 AM

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That is all very good but please do not fool yourself into believing you can you steroids without getting side effects. That is in a perfect world. Good luck with whatever you go for though


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Jafar

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From:Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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posted April 24, 2001 05:58 AM

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Not to mention the fact that you've got 3 different 17aa drugs in there. Not the best for avoiding side effects. (Mainly Liver problems)

But then again it's only for two weeks, so maybe not. Which also seems like a waste to me. Why not take one relatively potent 17a drug, (Anadrol 50 comes to mind) with a low- medium dose of test for 4-5 weeks? Eat clean and you'll put on real good mass. Then do your clomid and what not. I just don't see the point in taking 150 relatively weak drugs in low doses (not that Dbol is weak, but 10mg is miniscule.) for two weeks in hopes of changing your physique by 5-10 lbs.

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despot_kungfoo

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posted April 24, 2001 06:24 AM

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no side effects ? come one....
If you don't want any side effects, stay of the anaolics and just use creatine. The liver will take "big" damage with all that winstrol and anavar.

//despot - just for the kicks

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jdismukes

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posted April 24, 2001 06:46 AM

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You are screwing up. Either pick an oral and stack it with an anabolic or just do one oral. For 2 weeks you will be lucky to gain a pound.


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freakazoid

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posted April 24, 2001 06:54 AM

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i just dont understand why anyone would want to kill their liver with a all oral cycle.pluss if you alreay have high estrogen the 17a's are just gona add,hope your clomid is legit


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dissto

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posted April 24, 2001 07:44 AM

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2 weeks cycles are onyl good when you use extremely high amounts of gear. ex
suspension 200mg/day for 14days
anadrol 200mg/day for 14 days
fina 75mg ED for 14 days

with this cycle you might gain 12-15 lbs, but keep only 3-5.
if you want to gains a solid 10-15lbs, do a regular cycle for 6-8 weeks.
a safe cycle would be
500mg test/week for 6 weeks
3-400mg EQ a week for 8 weeks.

if you keep nolvadex or even better arimidex on hand, you will have virtualy no sides. if you want you can throw in some anavar or winny for even more solid gains.
but like everyone said, dont do three orals in one cycle.


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-Falcon-

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posted April 24, 2001 08:00 AM

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c'mon bro....get for real!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're only looking for about 5-10lbs and don't want any sides at all....AT YOUR AGE IT'S VERY POSSIBLE TO DO IT NATURALLY!!!!

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dissto

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posted April 24, 2001 08:19 AM

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are you sure you have gyno? at 14% bf, you could just have fatty chest. if there is no luump under your nipple, then its not gyno my friend, you're just a fat ass! j/k.


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