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PYRO

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posted April 23, 2001 05:12 PM

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which do you guys prefer and why. what about the price is it worth it for the sust and also on the side effects?


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ajc

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posted April 23, 2001 05:17 PM

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In my opinion sust is cleaner, gives less bloat, and is more accurately dosed. 2 cc of sus (500mg) is probably equal to 4 cc (supposedly 800mg) of T200.

AraTest is probably a better competitor.

Just my opinion.

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Jback

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posted April 23, 2001 05:24 PM

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sos definately-much less bloat than enanthate and especially because I believe t200 is underdosed.

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Slopain

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posted April 23, 2001 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by ajc:
In my opinion sust is cleaner, gives less bloat, and is more accurately dosed. 2 cc of sus (500mg) is probably equal to 4 cc (supposedly 800mg) of T200.

AraTest is probably a better competitor.

Just my opinion.


That ratio is way off. I dont like sustanons just because I dont see the need and the costs are high - it has 4 esters that dont do much if anything for bodybuilders. Its self tapering? all long estered test will be so Enanthate (my favorite) and Cypionate are just as good. I would rather use aratest or something than sus because of 1. Multi Dose Vial 2. Cheaper 3. Just as potent.

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ajc

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posted April 23, 2001 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Slopain:
That ratio is way off. I dont like sustanons just because I dont see the need and the costs are high - it has 4 esters that dont do much if anything for bodybuilders. Its self tapering? all long estered test will be so Enanthate (my favorite) and Cypionate are just as good. I would rather use aratest or something than sus because of 1. Multi Dose Vial 2. Cheaper 3. Just as potent.



I'm not comparing sus to all test enanthate with that ratio. If you can get primotest, go for it. Or Ttokkyo's 200mg cyp would be good too.

I'm just saying that Brovel's T200 has been reported time and time again (which is hearsay, but I've never heard shit like that about Sos Redi-Jects) to contain 140-150mg per ml. So, if 4 cc contained 150mg each you'd be getting 600mg instead of 800mg. I think we can all agree that T200 doesn't really contain 190-200mg per ml.

But like I said earlier, Brovel's stuff must be working for a lot of bros, because it's top dog at my gym and all the other gyms on my local gym scene. It is cheap, so if you are on a budget or can't get other gear, go for it.

One of the most knowledgable bros I know swears by that shit, and I've written out numerous first time cycles for bros at the gym using only T200 at anywhere from 2cc to 4cc per week with a slight taper at the end and an assload of clomid. I just pound it into their heads that they have to eat a lot or it won't do shitunless they get lucky....then, more times than not they grow like a weed.

OK...Now I'm starting to talk myself into using T200...Not! I'll probably go with AraTest on my next big run.

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GonnaBeAGearHead

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posted April 23, 2001 07:35 PM

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T-200, or anything made by brovel for that matter, is pretty much crap. The only good thing I can say about it is that from what I've heard it's not worth making fake brovel because no one really wants it anyway, so you'll probably get real gear. For the most part brovel is underdosed, and not quite the same quality as sust. Sust is a mixture of tests that stays in your system on a more quality ride.I would definitely go with the sust if you can get/afford it.

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posted April 23, 2001 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by GonnaBeAGearHead:
T-200, or anything made by brovel for that matter, is pretty much crap. The only good thing I can say about it is that from what I've heard it's not worth making fake brovel because no one really wants it anyway, so you'll probably get real gear. For the most part brovel is underdosed, and not quite the same quality as sust. Sust is a mixture of tests that stays in your system on a more quality ride.I would definitely go with the sust if you can get/afford it.



A year ago the part about brovel being underdosed MAY have had credence, but even then people were buying the shit out of it - just like they are now lol no-one wants it?? heheh sure. But this will be a stalemate argument lets go to one I know I will win:

Why dont you explain to me this line that you said: "For the most part brovel is underdosed, and not quite the same quality as sust. Sust is a mixture of tests that stays in your system on a more quality ride."

Well you said it, now explain it. Why do 4 esters give you a "better ride" than straight enanthate. What does 30mg a prop per every rediject actually do for you. If you say something like "uhh it keeps your levels constant" Ill take that as "someone told me this and I repeat it without knowing if its valid." So please, back up your fact.

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posted April 24, 2001 11:05 AM

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posted April 24, 2001 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Slopain:

A year ago the part about brovel being underdosed MAY have had credence, but even then people were buying the shit out of it - just like they are now lol no-one wants it?? heheh sure. But this will be a stalemate argument lets go to one I know I will win:

Why dont you explain to me this line that you said: "For the most part brovel is underdosed, and not quite the same quality as sust. Sust is a mixture of tests that stays in your system on a more quality ride."

Well you said it, now explain it. Why do 4 esters give you a "better ride" than straight enanthate. What does 30mg a prop per every rediject actually do for you. If you say something like "uhh it keeps your levels constant" Ill take that as "someone told me this and I repeat it without knowing if its valid." So please, back up your fact.


As soon as I saw that last remark by gearhead I knew you were going to reply like this. Thats why I always say "from what I have heard"

Also slopes , I was going to grab some ara test to go with my eq and liquidex. What do you think about that combo??
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Slopain

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posted April 24, 2001 11:31 AM

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I like aratest and any test goes well with EQ (well and just about anything - I love test.) You will love the Liquidex the suspension I started is kicking in and other than strength and gains - nothing else to worry about no bloat no hint of gyno.

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Big Brother Val

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posted April 24, 2001 11:39 AM

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The only thing I got from t-200 is gyno. If I could get another brand of Enanthate, I'd go with that. But due to the bad experience I had, I'd go for Sust, personally.


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posted April 24, 2001 11:43 AM

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The only thing I got from t-200 is gyno. If I could get another brand of Enanthate, I'd go with that. But due to the bad experience I had, I'd go for Sust, personally.

Are you serious??? Ok T200 is Test Enanthate. Test is basically Test - yes different esters but in a nut shell once its in your system it does the same thing - so why would you get gyno from T200 and not from Sustanon - Im sure your speaking apples to apples or did you not use nolva either time??

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posted April 24, 2001 11:44 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Slopain:
I like aratest and any test goes well with EQ (well and just about anything - I love test.) You will love the Liquidex the suspension I started is kicking in and other than strength and gains - nothing else to worry about no bloat no hint of gyno.


I can't wait...If the liquidex would've come out about 6 weeks ago, I would be using a shitload of test in this summer's cutting cycle.

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posted April 24, 2001 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Big Brother Val:
The only thing I got from t-200 is gyno. If I could get another brand of Enanthate, I'd go with that. But due to the bad experience I had, I'd go for Sust, personally.

I would think if you got gyno from one test you will get it from the other. I don't think it would be the test just improper anti e usage. I could be wrong though!!

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Big Brother Val

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posted April 24, 2001 11:49 AM

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I agree with you guys. I should get gyno reguardless... but I never had signs of it with Sust.
WHo knows, maybe the sust I got was fake... but I grew like a mother on it.
The T-200 gave me very, very sore injection sites, and made me feel sick.
And I drove all the way to Tijuanna for the shit.
I even get gyno symptoms from freakin' d-bol. So I know that it wasn't just the t-200 that gave it to me.
I have never used nolvadex. Just clomid.
In any case... due to the overall sickness, lack of gains, and gyno... I sorta have t-200-aphobia.
Just my personal experience.
That's why I said PERSONALLY I'd go with Sust. I grew with that, without feeling sick besides the first few days after my first shot.
Test is Test is Test as they say.
But the t-200 is the only one that I was overall unsatisfied with.


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