posted April 23, 2001 04:45 PM

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as you can see the average total testosterone levels slowly increase until the 20-25 range when they are potentialy at their highest. A very few younger guys can get testosterone levels up into the 700s but only at night and in the mornings. Their hormones fluctuate up and down alot and can be very low in the late afternoon. WHen you hit your full prime in the early 20s and you fully mature, your testosterone levels area th their highest and stay around the same place 24 hours. They fluctuate up and down around a 300ng/dl range (i.e 600-900). (THe reason that T levels can be potentially lower than they are at earlier ages is because their is a huge increased potential for stress at that age when people have to begin to take care of themselves financialy and are no longer given the slack that they are as children. THis increase in stress hormones can do very bad things to t levels.) Regardless, if you do do steroids before 21-22 you don't want to hit testosterone , dbol or eq. YOu want to stay way from aromatizing compounds. THe growth plates in your face mature until your early 20s and too much estrogen wil stop this maturation. ALso, even arimidex won't keep your estrogen levels low enough to prevent these things if you use standard dosages of test. Nolva or clomid is no good either because it can actually act like an estrogen and close the epiphysis if it is taken in high enough dosages. MY message is this, if you are under the age of 21-22, don't do steroids. IF you do it is very likely that you will mess up your physical developement up either slightly or grossly and this can cause you alot of emotional damage down the road. Remeber, if you flood your body with test too young you might not even hit your natural testosterone peak. Years of natural, and FREE normal high levels of testosterone is going to go much farther than a couple of sporadic months of abnormal super high levels.

posted April 23, 2001 05:35 PM

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-Stew

posted April 23, 2001 06:19 PM

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Also remember, these are average results. I, for one, was not average. My father is a doctor, and I had complete physicals several times a year for sports. By age 15 or so, my test level was close to 1000, way over average. It's been that way ever since. My dad, at 48, has a level of about 800... he's a horny old bastard too, and in great shape. These physicals also showed that I stopped growing comletely by age 17, ALL my growth plates were closed, so juicing at age 19 was in no way more harmful, to ME, than waiting a few more years. This is not a flame directed at anyone, just a reminder that everyone is different, and that if you're considering roids in your teens, get tested, make SURE you're done growing, and that you're ready. Sorry, just got bored, felt like typing -PhatD

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