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 How to get the most out of your DNP cycle
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Olympian 
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There's been a lot of questions lately regarding how to optimally use DNP to get the most benefits possible. So, I'll try to make things a little bit more clear to the interested parties. DNP blocks ATP. True, but it doesn't completely block it, it just renders the process of the conversion of glucose to ATP less effective. If it completely blocked ATP, you would die. That simple. Now, lets get to the conundrum of the optimal DNP cycle. 1. Carb-depleting for 3 days prior to a DNP cycle WILL GREATLY ENHANCE YOUR RESULTS. Why? Simple really, we all have a certain amount of stored glycogen(liver and muscle), and this glycogen is then processed by the body for energy(glycogen=glucose+4g Water+phosphate). For all intensive purposes, 1 molecule of glycogen contains 1 gram of glucose that is equivalent to 1 gram of carbohydrates. When starting a DNP cycle, the body will rely on some of the stored glycogen for fuel(along with a certain amount of fat), until glycogen levels are low enough so that fat oxidation goes into overdrive so-to-speak. When this happens, the carbs we eat are being blocked by the DNP, so fat-oxidation keeps on going. FYI: THE BODY BECOMES VERY, VERY ADEPT AT BURNING FAT ONLY WHEN GLYCOGEN LEVELS ARE LOW. This normally happens around Day 6-7 during a normal DNP cycle but around Day 2-3 during the modified carb-depletion cycle. Those extra 4 days at full fat-burning mode could yield an extra 3-4 lbs of fat lost. Now, the T3: I recommend T3 at 25mcgs/day during the whole cycle. Some people will disagree with this but with the addition of an anabolic, muscle catabolism is NOT an issue. Furthermore, DNP DOES NOT ACT ON T3 levels, it just decreases the amount of T3 converted from T4 by decreasing the enzyme responsible for the conversion. (Most of the active T3 levels in the body come from the conversion of T4-T3 BTW) The addition of the T3 will just help T3 levels remain normal. Also recommended is the addition of ephedrine post-cycle as it increases T4-T3 conversion, which the DNP inhibited, which will help normalize T3 levels after the T3 has been discontinued (Thus eliminating any possible low-thyroid side-effects) Godspeed     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1288 |
damn - nice post! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 112 |
Anyone even concidering DNP should print this. Fonz they are going to want cycle length time between cycles, and dosage recommendations. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 331 |
What's up Fonz!? Thanks for the post, although I wish you'd have put it up a week ago... I'm already on Day 5 of my 8 day DNP cycle, and I didn't know to deplete carbs for 3 days prior to starting. What about carbs during the cycle? You recommended me to go 2000cal/day, but how much of that should come from carbs? Does it matter much if there slow vs. fast carbs? Thanks! ------------------ | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1736 |
Happy to oblige. Cycle schedule. 3 days prior to cycle. Carb deplete with a low-carb diet. Dosage to use: 6-8mg/Kg(Normally 600mg/day) Days 1-7: 600mg DNP/day+25mcgs/day T3 Days 8-14: 25mcgs/day T3 Days 15-28: ECA at 75-100mg Ephedrine/day Anabolics: Winstrol, or Deca, or Test. Pretty much take your pick. Just make sure there are high enough levels of an anabolic in your system. (e.g. don't start a cycle of DNP in your first week of test use as it takes 2-3 weeks to kick in.) Godspeed | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1736 |
quote: Sorry about that cuts, I just thought about it earlier today from prior experiments I did on DNP(stored in my computer for 2 years) Fast carbs are the same as slow carbs as DNP blocks insulin. Try to shoot for a "zone" type diet(30/30/40), to slow down gastric emptying leading to a better feel of fullness and less carb-cravings than a high-carb diet while on DNP. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 112 |
BUMP | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
Great post. How important is doing cardio on a DNP cycle. Is it any more efficient than doing cardio without DNP. My last DNP cycle was 600mg/day and I just didn't have the energy to do any cardio. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1288 |
hey fonz - I'm enjoying these dnp posts of yours, they are pretty solid. I recall a few days back... maybe it is weeks now - anyway, someone asked you what I was wondering too - the heat burns fat, more carbs taken in, more heat. just curious - I see your point of depleting early on so that the fat gets started, but I'm still curious as to this other point. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 112 |
BUMP for the evening crew! | ||
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Novice
Posts: 3 |
FONZ!!! question for you. I am gonna start dnp tomarrow but have not glycogen depleted at all. In order to get that benifit would it be benificial to reduce glycogen levels by eating zero carbs today and then shooting 1.5 iu humalin R twice (2 hours apart)? Could I get the same glycogen depleted effect in only 1 day using the old "get into ketosis quick" trick? | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1736 |
quote: No. Ketosis DOES NOT EQUAL carb-depleted. It just means that liver glycogen has been emptied, and that insulin levels have dropped. Muscle glycogen is untouched. Which is the one we have to deplete. Happy Scrappy: True, the more carbs you eat during a DNP cycle(when glycogen levels are low enough) the mre heat you produce(as they're being blocked by the DNP), and the more fat gets oxidized. However, a high carb-intake=more heat=sweating all the time =feeling VERY hungry as fat/prot increase "fullness" due to their slow rate of digestion. An isometric/zone type diet works best. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 242 |
excellent post fonz | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 683 |
Great stuff!  Sorry this is a little off topic, I just halfta know. On the part about ECA affecting thyroid production. Would taking an ECA stack before a bloodtest for your thyroid increase your TSH numbers? Could that make you appear Hypothyroid? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 331 |
Good stuff Fonz! Day 6 of my cycle and I can both feel AND see the fat coming off! Thanks for your help... ------------------ |
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posted April 23, 2001 11:07 AM