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psycho

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posted April 22, 2001 07:15 PM

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Whats going on bros? Well, I just finished my cycle of t-200 and nandrolone. I gained 20lbs, probably 5lbs of fat were gained. I am currently 6'1-6'2 at 197lbs. My family history has always had skinny genes going throughout us and I guess I am the only one that is doing something about it. My problem is that everytime I add 20lbs, it doesnt look like ANYTHING to me because I am tall. My first cycle was Sustanon, Primo, Dbol and only gained 20lbs. I was planning my next cycle to be a cutting cycle but after looking at pictures on Conan's site, I realized that i want to be as thick as possible and as strong as possible. So this is my next cycle, goal is to add 30-40lbs.

-Cyp-EQ-Susp-Winny-Primo-
-600-600-300-0-300-
-600-600-300-0-300-
-600-600-300-0-300-
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-600-600-0-350-300-
-600-600-0-350-300-
-600-600-0-350-300-
-600-600-0-350-300-

This is my third cycle and I plan on doing Clomid and Nolvadex throughout with HCG at the end. I want to get big and strong as fuck. I plan on eating at least 5000 calories. Tell me what you bros think and if I should add in any more drugs or up the doses. Help me out bros.


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Jback

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posted April 22, 2001 07:21 PM

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a couple of things-I would cut the eq down to 400mg/week-also most people would use the susp to get your blood levels up because the cyp takes longer-I would pick one or the other and use 100mg/eod of prop for the first two weeks instead of susp.-much easier on your system but then hit the cyp at 600mg/week for 10 weeks-or if you really want to do susp. you will like just watch the hairline, and gyno-get some arimidex and nolva ready-good luck

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ROIDRANGER

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posted April 22, 2001 07:22 PM

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up the CYP to atleast a GRAM, specially since the EQ is at 600mg.....and yes i did notice the suspension.....get an oral in their too...drol or dbol--theyll help in hitting 30lbs..

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The Man Child

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posted April 22, 2001 07:36 PM

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I'm 6'4'' 297lb. right now. I still feel small bro. You're never going to be satisfied with yourself, except that. And if you do get satisfied, that's when you get smaller because you try to maintain.

Now, onto your cycle. Looks awesome, I wish I had your wallet. I'd up the Cyp to a gram, and I'd make sure you had Arimidex for the Suspension. If you can't get 30lb. off of this you're not eating and sleeping correctly...


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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 22, 2001 08:16 PM

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CYCLE LOOKS GOOD, YOU COULD TRY THIS INSTEAD IF YOU LIKE
WEEK***CYP***EQ***WINNY***D-BOL***PRIMO****
1*****1000**600***********40MG/ED**********
2*****1000**600***********40MG/ED**********
3*****1000**600***********40MG/ED**300*****
4*****1000**600***********40MG/ED**300*****
5*****1000**600***********40MG/ED**300*****
6*****1000**600********************300*****
7*****1000**600**50MG/ED***********300*****
8*****1000**600**50MG/ED***********300*****
9*****1000**600**50MG/ED***********300*****
10****1000**600**50MG/ED***********300*****
11**********600**50MG/ED***********300*****
12**********600**50MG/ED***********300*****
YOU DON'T NEED THE PRIMO BUT IF YOU HAVE IT THEN I WOULD USE IT. IF YOU HAVE A SOLID DIET AND EAT ALOT OF CLEAN CALS AND GET AT LEAST 2 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOLID MASS OUT OF THIS CYCLE. THESE DOSES ARE A LITTLE HIGH AND UNLESS YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF CYCLES UNDER YOUR BELT THEN I WOULD NOT GO THIS HIGH. HOPE THIS HELPS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN E-MAIL ME ANYTIME. BEST OF LUCK

M18

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lawnsaver

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posted April 22, 2001 08:20 PM

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I like mustangs cycle. I would save the primo and use it as a bridge.

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ultragainz

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posted April 22, 2001 09:26 PM

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i would do this....

wks-d-bol---cyp---eq----winny--susp----primo
1---30mgs---1000--400----------------------
2---30mgs---1000--400----------------------
3---30mgs---1000--400----------------------
4---30mgs---1000--400----------------------
5---30mgs---1000--400----------------------
6-----------1000--400----50eod-------------
7-----------1000--400----50eod------------
8-----------1000--400----50eod-------------
9-----------------400-----------100eod-----
10----------------400-----50eod-100eod-----
11----------------400-----50eod-100eod-----
12----------------400-----50eod-100eod-----
13----------------400-------------------300
14----------------------**50eod---------300
15----------------------**50eod---------300
16----------------------**50eod---------300
17--------------------------------------300
18--------------------------------------300
19--------------------------------------300
20--------------------------------------300
**dont have to take the wiiny on those weeks if you dont want to...thats what **means...

or do this......

wks-d-bol--eq---cyp---susp---winy-----primo
1---40mgs-400---750---100eod---------------
2---40mgs-400---750---100eod---------------
3---40mgs-400---750---100eod---------------
4---40mgs-400---750------------------------
5---------400---750---100eod-50eod----------
6---------400---750---100eod-50eod---------
7---------400---750---100eod-50eod---------
8---------400---750---------------------300
9---------400---750----------50eod------300
10--------400----------------50eod------300
11--------400----------------50eod------300
12--------400---------------------------300
13--------------------------------------300
14--------------------------------------300

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NO SWEAT!!! NO BLOOD!!! NO TEARS!!!
AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!!
P.S.GAMEOVER!!!!!


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psycho

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posted April 22, 2001 10:02 PM

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-Cypro-EQ-Winny-Susp-
-800-600-0-400-
-800-600-0-400-
-800-600-0-400-
-800-600-0-400-
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-0-600-400-0-
-0-600-400-0-

I am going to bridge the Primo after this cycle. The reason I am using the Susp over Dbol is that i can only buy Dbol in either 500 or 1000 tab bottles so i decided to go with the Susp. This is a stepup from my previous cycles and i hope to hit my goals of 30-40lbs. Tell me what you bros think. I understand that you will never feel as big as you want to be, but when you have set a goal for yourself, you want to push yourself harder, until you reach it.


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@LRG

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posted April 22, 2001 10:07 PM

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what about anadrol....or just get the 500 dbol--you could easily use 300+ in 5-6WKS

..get an oral
..up test to at least a GRAM
..take SUSPENSION w/ WINNY(killer stack btw)

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bigkraut

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posted April 22, 2001 10:26 PM

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I think Mustang has your game plan. But you have to eat man. Most hard gainers are really guys that don't eat enough. If your reading this and your not scarfing something down, get away from the screen and make a fu*cking peanut butter sandwich or something and chase it with a pint of milk! If you are already eating good then disregard. Anyone out there that wants mass had better learn to eat. I mean eat like a bodybuilder. Three squares don't cut it gang.


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bswoll

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posted April 22, 2001 10:39 PM

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PSYCHO HOW DID YOU CYCLE THE DECA AND T 200??


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psycho

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posted April 22, 2001 10:46 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by bswoll:
PSYCHO HOW DID YOU CYCLE THE DECA AND T 200??

-t200-deca-
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Weam

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posted April 22, 2001 10:54 PM

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I had used 1000mg of Testosterone enanthate for the 3 weeks as an Androgen loading phase,
Week 4-6 500mg of Sustanon, 200 Nandrolone undecanoate, 200mg Progesterone
Week 7-8 200mg Deca, 500mg Sustanon

I gained 16lbs on week 3, another 12lbs on week 6 & finally 5lbs on week 8


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bswoll

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posted April 22, 2001 11:06 PM

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psycho DID YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH GYNO?? THANKS


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crackerlinebacker

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posted April 22, 2001 11:11 PM

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Too much gear in my opinion.

You are new to all of this. How much are you going to be taking a year from now? 2 grams? Shit...slow down.

I know this is totally opposite to what you have been reading but it is my opinion.

All I can speak from is experience. Keep in mind that I believe in using the least amount to get the most gains. And that my personal health is the #1 factor.

I started out at 165 lbs...I had dropped 10-15 from boxing. Did my first go around with 2,500 mgs of deca(nor 50)over 8wks and gained to 200lbs.

Then went on to sust at 500 per wk(I tappered from 250 for the first few wks)12 wks and went to 215.

Now I've gotten to 260 but cant keep it, yet. Still doing basic cycles.

Your body can only accomodate so much additional growth at one time. More juice doesn't mean more gains, it does however mean more risks.

Im not trying to talk you down or discredit what anyone else is saying, but I use a high protein diet(1 gram per pound when off, 3 grams of protein per pound while on)and do okay. I know there are tons of people here that are way bigger and stronger and more knowledgable, but this is my opinion.

Look to the future. Think how happy you used to be if you just could of gained 10lbs in one year! Now try to focus on gaining 30 total for the year and supporting it. This may include gaining a total of 60 for the year, but cutting up and making the appearance look better.

Your health should be the primary concern.

Don't use more than you have to.

Seem like the deca did okay by ya. Maybe try sust this time around and see how you respond to tests.

I would be happy to discuss things with ya further if your interested, and I know everybody is different, but when I read about how your family is, I thought "shit...just like mine." Brother is 6'5 and currently 174 lbs. He is 33 now. Im 5'11 and have been an ecto all my life.

BigC


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bigpun

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posted April 23, 2001 03:10 AM

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Just a suggestion, but I think Cracker makes good sense. I don't believe there's a need for the winny and primo in there when you're trying to mass up, especially when you have equipoise to solidify the gains. Four different drugs in one cycle is overkill IMO for your third round.

If you're set on using the winny and primo, why don't you finish up the mass cycle, rest your receptors for a bit, and then begin a good cutting cycle. That way you'll be large and lean. Good luck anyways.


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E M T

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posted April 23, 2001 03:31 AM

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Wow,I think linebacker hit it right on the nail. More gear does not always mean more gains, but it does mean more risks. There is no need to jump to a gram of test a week especially when you are stacking all those other gears together. Even at half that dose you should have no problem putting on 20+ pounds if you eat and lift smart. LATER


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bswoll

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posted April 23, 2001 10:38 AM

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BUMP


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psycho

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posted April 23, 2001 04:18 PM

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i did experience slight gyno problems during the test and deca cycle but nolvadex cured it.


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crackerlinebacker

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posted April 23, 2001 05:47 PM

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I know some are really into big dosages, and hey, thats their business.

Now as for the gyno...nolvadex can only work agaisnt estrogen, not progesterone. Deca can aromatize to progesterone and you can get progesteronic gyno. One way people combat this is by using stanzolo(winny). It does help counteract progesterone levels. Also...Arimidex(which can be in the mid $200 range)is an aromatase inhibitor, which means it will whipe out the possibility of anything aromatizing, amoung other things. Cytadren can help here to but the risk involved increases greatly with this drug.

Arimidex is very expensive compared to other drugs like proviron or nolvadex. Keep in mind that novla and pro do nothing against progesterone.

BigC


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The Iron Game

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posted April 23, 2001 05:58 PM

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#1 No need for dbol or anadrol if you are using suspension.

#2 I dont know who typed it but suspension needs to be shot every day not every other day. It is pure test, no ester attached and is very similar to anadrol.

#3 why do you want so many steroids in your cycle?

#4 No need for the primo and winny together. As Lawnsaver said use the primo for a bridge.

#5 If you are prone to acne you are going to get it big time on all of those.

#6 Do not use 1000mgs of test/wk if you are also using suspension. Keep it as you originally planned at 600mgs/wk.

#7 Dont forget Nolva and Proviron or arimidex.

Your first planned cycle seemed great. I dont know why everyone insists on complicating matters for you.

Test 600mgs/wk
Eq 600mgs/wk
Winny 50mgs daily

Keep things simple and dont over kill.

Peace


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