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Suspension

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posted April 22, 2001 10:41 AM

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Would you do it again? Did bridging screw up the gains for your next cycle? Anyone with experience please respond!


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Daeo

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posted April 22, 2001 12:25 PM

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Bump. As I'm curious also...

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ulter

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posted April 22, 2001 12:32 PM

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I have bridged many times. It doesn't hinder gains at all. The whole downregulation "theory" is ridiculous. There is NO scientific evidence of this whatsoever and those who believe it would do us all a great service by stiffling their claims until they can prove it.

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lawnsaver

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posted April 22, 2001 12:34 PM

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I like the bridge. I used 15ius of slin. 5ius when I woke and 10ius post workout with 15 grams of glut and 10 grams of creatine. I actually didnt finish my bridge, because I hurt my shoulder. I was 4 weeks through of 6. I actually made a new bench max on the slin. If I was to do it again, which I am in 2 weeks, I will watch my diet with slin much closer. I put on a little fat.

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Fener

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posted April 22, 2001 12:53 PM

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just courious, could you bridge with 100mgs of primo/week for 5 weeks?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 22, 2001 12:55 PM

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Fener-double that dosage and you're talking.That would work great...


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delray

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posted April 22, 2001 04:07 PM

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Huck,
I 've heard primo is the best to bridge with, but should one continue with the post-cycle regimen of HCG and clomid?

Seems like the point of bridging is to bring your natural test on line and then start a shorter second cycle ...

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Big Johnson

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posted April 22, 2001 04:16 PM

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BRIDGING WITH ANAVAR IS POPULAR AROUND HERE. I'VE NEVER EVEN TRIED IT, THOUGH.

HERE IS A QUESTION FOR HUCK: COULD ARIMIDEX, CYTODREN, OR PROVIRON BE USED AS A BRIDGE, OR WOULD YOUR TEST STILL BE SUPRESSED TOO BADLY TO EVEN MAKE A DIFFERENCE? WITH LOW TEST LEVELS, YOUR BODY WOULDN'T BE PRODUCING MUCH AROMATASE ANYWAY. WOULD THIS BE A WASTE?

ALSO, WHILE I HAVE THE GURU'S ATTENTION , WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT BRIDGING WITH PGF2 TAKEN TRANSDERMALLY WITH PHLOGEL?

PEACE

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LittleSavage34

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posted April 22, 2001 04:16 PM

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Got another bridge question...I really like fina, but would it make a good bridging agent? Anavar is a bit pricey for me so any comments would be great.

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Big Johnson

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posted April 22, 2001 04:44 PM

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I'VE HEARD THAT FINA, LIKE DECCA, IS A TEST ANALOGUE THAT SHUTS TEST PRODUCTION DOWN FASTER AND HARDER THAN TEST ITSELF.

I THINK THE IDEAL BRIDGE WOULD BE LOW ANDROGENIC SUBSTANCE THAT ALLOWS YOUR BODY TO RECOVER FROM THE PREVIOUS CYCLE. PGF2, HGH, WINSTROL, PRIMO, AND ANAVAR ARE SUPPOSE TO ALLOW THIS. I HAVEN'T TRIED ANY OF THESE PERSONALLY.

I'M THINKING THAT A LOW DOSE OF A QUICK ACTING TEST MAY BE A GOOD BRIDGE, TOO. PERHAPS 50MG OF PHENYL PROP EOD.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 22, 2001 04:45 PM

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The idea behind a bridge is to allow for recovery of the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular-axis(H-P-T-A)while minimalizing muscle loss in between cycles.There are only two A/S that are suitable to this goal-Primobolan & Oxandrolone.These two seem to display less aggressive binding to androgen receptors on the Hypothalamus and Pituitary,as well as neither being incapable of aromitizing to estrogen(which certainly has an influence on natural hormonal output).For these reasons,they should be the only two choices of anabolics for bridging.Big-J-That is good thinking,and yes,arimidex in particular does seem capable of elevating natural T-levels beyond normal range somewhat(I've seen studies indicating close to a 60% increase in serum T-levels).Proviron is an androgen with fairly aggressive binding characteristics,and thus should be ruled out.Clomid will restore homeostasis in the presence of acceptable androgen levels,but doesn't seem capable of taking one beyond this point.PGF2a is an excellent bridging weapon,as it does not influence H-P-T-A function whatsoever,and seems to actually SENSITIZE the androgen receptors to more efficient uptake of androgens....

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Big Johnson

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posted April 22, 2001 04:58 PM

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DANG HUCK, NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE A BOOK? SHIT, I'D BUY IT

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE BRAIN POWER

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86

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posted April 22, 2001 06:14 PM

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I bridged two months 300 mg/week Primobolan. It did not hinder gains in the next cycle. Before, I bridged with Equipoise 300mg/week. I had bad experiences with Primo, I think I am allergic to it or something. I lost my breath and nearly coughed up my organs after a couple of injections. I like EQ. My experience is that life is more fun when I'm on something so I don't come off regardless of ethics, morals, Christian values or scientific research.


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Suspension

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posted April 22, 2001 07:36 PM

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Thanks for all the input guys. Its time to start my bridge. lol.


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Fener

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posted April 22, 2001 08:55 PM

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huck, i know you 're supposed to bridge with 200mgs of primo, but i was asking if even 100mgs would work to some degree for sparing mass. On the other hand 100mgs would surely be easier on the htpa.... What do you think?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 22, 2001 09:53 PM

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It will not shut down H-P-T-A function to any great degree at 200mgs/week.100mgs/week is extremely weak at best for anti-catabolism.Look at primo in these terms:
*200mgs/week=minimal to no suppression
*300mgs/week=partial suppression
*400mgs/week and above=Moderate to full suppression after a certain period of time...


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