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Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1368 |
i started anadrol, sust, prop, & t-200.. the first 2 weeks i had noticed my nips very puffy! i dropped the anadrol.. i am now in week 6, and i started taking 2 tabs at night, usually after i eat. i'm on my 3rd day and i dont notice SHIT! i am just curious on how long it may take to notice my nips to START decreasing in size. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1368 |
shit guys, this has been up for 5 hours at least! com'on, help me. all i need to know baisically is howlong it takes nolvedex to work!? thanks.. BUMP for mikey ![]() ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1016 |
Up your dossage to 40mg/day of nolv and you should have ZERO effects of gyno in under a week. Use it for 7 days and stop. Nolv is not something that you should play around with.
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Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1368 |
bro, im using 2 of the 20 mgs ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 188 |
try splitting the dose up - one in the morning and one at night it says something in the prescribing information that doses over 20mg/day should be split up for greater effectiveness ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 188 |
Stew - why would you want to stop after 7 days? ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1016 |
Mike, you wanna post that email that I sent you to answer this question...?
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Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1368 |
sure bro. and thanks for your help.
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Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 188 |
good info! everything causes testicular cancer in rats, so I'm not worried about that (the last time I checked, I wasn't a rat) the anti-IGF theory might be offset by the testosterone anyway - i don't really believe that part about half the muscle building effects of test being blocked also, there have been studies where males have stayed on nolvadex for 3 months to reverse gyno, so I don't know about this 7 day limit [This message has been edited by Tall Dude (edited April 22, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Tall Dude (edited April 22, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 127 |
is arimadex just as risky? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1016 |
Arimidex will not antagonise the IGF-1 pathway; neither will clomid as clomid only binds to ER in the brain (does not bind to estrogen receptors anywhere else). There are no conclusive studies of nolvadex's causing cancer in humans; however, there have been many (some of our own brothers from Elite) who have developed testicular cancer after taking Nolvadex for extended periods of time. But keep in mind, it is hard to say that other factors didn't play a key role. For those who don't know anything about biology/medicine, rats that are used in studies have been geneticly modified so their bodies mimic human response patterns. This is why studies are done on rats. We do not care about effects that AS has on rats. They are only used when humans can not be.
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Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 188 |
Stew Your point is well taken. Obviously, there is only so much "genetic modification" you can do to rats to make their systems mimic humans. One other thing, here's some data suggesting that clomid may be a player when it comes to IGF http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list _uids=11056123&dopt=Abstract [This message has been edited by Tall Dude (edited April 22, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Tall Dude (edited April 22, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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