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Mad Max

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posted April 20, 2001 10:29 PM

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This is going to be my 3rd cycle. I plan on hitting the test hard since my first cycle I topped out at 200mg of cycpionate a week and got great gains. The test I will be using in this cycle is the new cypro 125mgof cypionate-with75mg of propionate.


CYPRO WINNY PRIMO clomid

week 1 600mg **** ****

2 600mg **** ****

3 600mg 50(EOD) ****

4 600mg 50(EOD) ****

5 600mg 50(EOD) ****

6 600mg 50(EOD) ****

7 400mg 50(EOD) ****

8 **** 50(EOD) 200mg


9 **** **** 200mg 100mged

10 **** **** 200mg 50mgEOD

11 **** **** 200mg

12 **** **** 200mg

13 *** **** 200mg


My goal for this cycle is to put on weight while staying cut. I have a question abou the winny. This will be my first time using it and i'm not sure wheather to do 50mg ED or EOD. Does it make that much of a difference?
---PEACE---Mad Max


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ultragainz

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posted April 20, 2001 10:34 PM

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not bad bro..i would take the winny eod...or just take 100mgs eod

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THEBADBANSHEE

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posted April 20, 2001 10:38 PM

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EOD is fine, but I'd extend your test to at least 8 wks and keep it @ 600mgs/wk.

BANSHEE


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lawnsaver

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posted April 20, 2001 10:38 PM

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I would run the test at 500mg for 8 weeks. I like the primo, but at 300mg. I would drink the winny, 12.5mg twice a day. This will keep your blood levels more constant.

Cypro is good stuff! Not like t-200. Its human grade. That 500mg is going to hit hard.

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Mad Max

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posted April 20, 2001 10:40 PM

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The only things I might change is running the test at 600 for a full ten weeks, and i'll probably do the winny at 100mg EOD since its the ttokkyo 100mg/ml. This will be my first time using primo to keep my gains while my test levels and hormones get into check. I hope it works, i'm very confident with this cycle. June first and its on baby.
---PEACE---Mad Max


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the mechanic

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posted April 20, 2001 10:43 PM

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Enjoy the cypro, you will like it.

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Mad Max

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posted April 20, 2001 10:44 PM

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I can't make up my freaking mind. Evey time I read a new response I get another idea. Now I want to run the test at 500mg for 8 weeks. I do resond very well to test so no reason to go overkill.
LAWNSAVER- the reaon for the primo at 200 is because of the constant debate that at 300 it will interfere with you hormone levels. I don't know much about drinking winny but I feel better injecting it. It makes me think its deffinately going to work.
Thanks for the input.
---PEACE---Mad Max


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lawnsaver

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posted April 20, 2001 11:07 PM

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The oral way will work better, I promise. 50mg eod is a low dose and wont keep blood levels constant. I say use the primo at 300mg and use the clomid after!

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Mad Max

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posted April 20, 2001 11:49 PM

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Lawnsaver- I know nothing about drinking winny, how do I calculate how much to drink out of each ml? I'll probably run the primo at 300 but that hurts my wallet, but it is worth it! Why run the clomid after the primo. My idea for the primo was so that I could use the clomid to get test levels back and staightng out my hormones while able to maintain gains. I crash hard and want my test levels back to normal as fast as possible. Your thoughts??
---PEACE---Mad Max


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lawnsaver

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posted April 20, 2001 11:55 PM

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Well if 1cc = 50mg, then 1/4cc will be 12.5mgs. Draw it in a point and squirt it in your mouth and wash it down with your favorite juice. You wont crash while on 300mg of primo. I think at 300mg your hpta is still effected. This is debatable, but to be sure, wait till your done. I wouldnt want to chance it and waste my money.

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Mad Max

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posted April 21, 2001 12:04 AM

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hehehe-I always was bad at math. I don't understand what your saying about the primo.What do you mean by " but to be sure wait to your done". If 300 will effect my hpta then why don't I do 200mg just to be safe or is that insufficient.
---PEACE---Mad MAx


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Mad Max

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posted April 21, 2001 12:14 AM

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My bad- I just re-read what you said and got it. Your saying save the clomid after the primo incase I have to raise my hpta levels. Late at night and tired. My only decision left to make is wheather or not to use 200mg of primo and start clomid soon or do 300mg of primo and use clomid after thats done. decisions,decisions. I wish all my problems were like this.
---PEACE---Mad Max


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lawnsaver

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posted April 21, 2001 12:18 AM

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I believe there is a big difference in the 2 doses. I was upping the primo be make more pronouced gains. 300mg will harden you. 200mg will only work well as a bridge, but you arent bridging, so make more gains. I think if your not using primo as a bridge, use a little more to get the effects you want. You want to use primo at 200mg as a bridge to let clomid do the job.

Do you understand where I'm coming from? You are ending your cycle when you are done the primo, so start your clomid then. If you are worried about the money, switch to eq and save.

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ultragainz

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posted April 21, 2001 12:22 AM

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hey "LAWNSAVER"i know where you are coming from...LOl i would of said 300mgs of primo when i say the psot but was thinking he only has enough for 200mgs a weeks so i said the hell with it....but 300mgs of primo is great...LOVE THAT STUFF!!!

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Mad Max

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posted April 21, 2001 12:32 AM

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I got you, then its decided. I'll use the primo at 300mg and clomid after thats done. Thanks for your input, its been helpful.
---PEACE---And good night. I'm out. Mad Max


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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 21, 2001 02:46 AM

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I WOULD TAKE THE PRIMO AT 300-400MG/WEEK FOR 8-10 WEEKS AS IT TAKES A WHILE TO KICK IN AND IF POSSABLE I WOULD TAKE THE WINNY AT 50MG/EVERY DAY BUT IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT THEN 25MG/EVERY DAY SHOULD WORK NICE. BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR CYCLE

M18

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fresh

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posted April 21, 2001 02:49 AM

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I'm jealous that you have the cypro my supplier still doesn't have it, besides that i thing M18 is right and jack the primo up, but i think that will be a Solid cycle...good luck.


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The Iron Game

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posted April 21, 2001 11:12 AM

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You are more than likely going to need some more clomid. Take winny daily not eod. Read Lawnsavers reply


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