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George Spellwin

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Dear friends and fellow athletes,

On Tuesday, I am appearing on the radio talk show The Zone WQXI 790 AM in Atlanta. The topic of the day is Anabolic Steroids and supplements. And in particular Anabolic Steroids in Pro Sports.

I would really like to hear your comments, arguments, and opinions on some of the questions that will likely be asked.

What percentage of Pro Athletes use Anabolic Steroids?

What percentage of Pro Athletes use supplements?

Are Anabolic Steroids and Supplements in pro sports cheating and why not?

How does the use of Anabolic Steroids in Pro sports influence the young?

What are the benefits of Anabolic Steroids?

Your comments on any other questions that will likely be asked are appreciated.

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George,
I may catch heat, but technically, AS use in pro sports would be considered cheating since, 1. They create an imbalanced playing field because they can improve performance. and 2. Not everyone uses them.

As for the influence on the young. I remember being in 7th grade and hearing the term "steroids" being thrown around. All I knew was they made you "big, strong, and mean." I think the influence comes from the people and the environment they are in (i.e the types of sports they play and the coaches) I think a lot of heat comes from the high profile sports like football where AS can cause a distinct improvement due to the nature of the game. If they get caught up in this scene at a young,influential age then I don't think it's the pro's use that steers them but its the people who are much closer to them.

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Sizedoesmatter

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I'll ring in on this one.

1. In my opinion, it depends on what sport we're talking about. Football, atleast 75%. Baseball, maybe 20-30%. I'm just guessing here, but that's what I believe. It's more than most people even suspect.

2. Almost all athletes use some type of supplement. Protein, creatine, carb drinks, etc...

3. Very controversial question here. In my opinion, YES, using AS is cheating for the simple fact that they're illegal and not readily available for all to use. I'm in no way against their usage since I've used myself with success. If they were legal and readily available for all to obtain, then NO, I wouldn't consider it cheating. Supplements are readily available almost anywhere.

4. This is one of the negatives. Young people are more inclined to believe that to be successful in any sport, then you must use AS.

5. Benefits...better performance, better physique. Most non-pro's using them are out to achieve a better body. It's like cosmetic surgery. We all want the best body around.

There's use and there's abuse with AS. Outlawing them has hurt alot of people for the simple fact of blackmarket scams. Making them illegal hasn't really cut down on their use. It's only going to keep rising. It opened up the market to fake gear and novice users that don't do their homework.

Good luck George. Hope I've helped you out. Will there be a written transcript of the program available? Would love to see the Q's & A's.

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When your asked a question as to the saftey of AS use. Replay that overweight/ nonfitness americans with heart problems account for the largest % deaths. It would be great if you could get the $ figure on the cost of overweight people. I am sure the number would be outstanding.
Also compare the number of Drunk-driving deaths compared to drivers with a little AS in his system. And don't forget tobbacco.

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George, Just remember:
NO vulgar language,
No angry unprovoked outbursts,
Please do NOT continue to make references to how much you bench press or how big your arm size is,
If you have a female interviewer, Do NOT refer to her as a Hoochie Mama.
Keep in mind that most people are unaware of BB lingo, so use scientific terms, that is please say "syringe" and NOT "pins, darts, or poke'em sticks"
And before you close your discussions, PLEASE, PLEASE be sure to remind everyone that YES!!!!! You can drink Winstrol.
A shout out to Luvs2Juice would be the talk of town also.

Oh yeah, and then meet me at Road House Grill and buy me lunch since you never sent me my Triple Threat Protein Powder. Which by the way is the greatest tasting powder on the market.......


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Tuna Guy

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posted April 20, 2001 02:07 PM

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I dont use steroids myself but i cant see the harm if one chooses to use(not abuse) them to increase there quality of life.
However drugs are so rife in sport that those wishing to enter high level competition dont really have a choice.


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posted April 20, 2001 02:09 PM

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Hey George...What NY time will it be on. I definatly want to catch that.

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can't guess on the first two, but i suspect it's higher than the public would think. there's a lot of ignorance out there about AS use...i tend to be cynical about some of the "andro" and "creatine" use of some of our athletes.

i definitely think using steroids IS cheating. they're banned substances. if a second grader has a math test and uses a calculator, he's cheating, regardless of the fact that it will improve performance.

i don't think AS use in pro sports influences the young much at all at this point...i really don't believe they know how widespread it is...a desire to be big like mcgwire might get someone to use AS, but at this point i don't think steroids are being used by the young in an effort to IMITATE these athletes. a real high-profile athlete (ben johnson was 12 yrs. ago) being caught might change things, though.


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It would be very cool George for you to point out that women take the female counterpart hormones as birth control...and that the normal american lifestyle is just as or probably more detrimental to health then intelligent AAS usage...

Point out that if they want to destroy their bodies by being fat, and lazy, what gives them the right to tell us we can't build ours by using every available means?

Give 'em hell George! ;-)


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George Spellwin

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posted April 20, 2001 02:36 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Jae:

A shout out to Luvs2Juice would be the talk of town also.

Oh yeah, and then meet me at Road House Grill and buy me lunch since you never sent me my Triple Threat Protein Powder. Which by the way is the greatest tasting powder on the market.......



Jae,

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As far as sports usage goes, it is not cheating if most athletes use it. It more or less levels the playing feild and can not make up for lack of natural athletic ability. The whole sports and steroids controversy is much like nuclear dearmament. Nukes already exist and there is no way to get rid of them because the incentive to defy anti-nuke treaties is too great. A country can not risk giving up its nuclear advantage and having others "cheat" and hide theirs. It is the same for athletes. They can not risk giving up steroids and losing their position to someone who is juiced. Since steroids are medically necessary, it is not possible to get rid of them. As long as there is demand for them there will always be a black market.

Concerning steroids in high school students, I think steroid education would go a long way in preventing them from using. The just say no, drugs are bad bullshit doesn't work since high schoolers will do drugs just to be rebellious. If they understood the real consequences vs. benefits of using at a young age then they could make better decisions and would probably surprise most legislators. This board alone has convinced many teenagers to wait to use steroids until they are fully grown and have plateaued athletically. I think that says alot for steroid education. Misinformation and propoganda only leads to poor dicisions and that is about all teenagers have to learn from concerning steroids and most other drugs.

I think you should also talk about the scheduling of steroids as a narcotic and taking the power away from doctors and giving it to black market steroid dealers. The AMA after all, was opposed to the scheduling of steriods. Driving steroid use underground has only made them more dangerous, i.e. counterfits, veterinary medicines, no blood test or doctor supervision. You can refer to the New England Journal of Medicine study on testosterone at levels up to 600mg a week and how the patients saw no significant side effects. Doctors are finding that older men are deficient in GH and testosterone and there is a trend in rejuvination or anti-aging medicine. In general push the benefits and relative safety of steroids when used under a doctors care. The best we can hope for at this point is the decriminalization of steroids. If we can get that then I do not think most doctors would have a problem supervising and prescribing to steroid use for asthetic purposes.

This leads me to my next unorganized thought. Try to focus more on steroids for bodybuilding or aesthetic reasons as well as health reasons. If women can get breast implants, lipo and take estrogen then men should be able to take testosterone for the exact same reasons. I wish I could get you a copy of my last two blood tests. One was from 10 months ago, after being off for almost a year and the other is from this week, after being on non-stop for 10 months at low dosages. My Ldl went way down, my Hdl went up, my liver values, prostate values and blood pressure are all within the normal range and I have never felt better in my life. I have never seen anyone with blood work as healthy as mine.

I assume this radio host will be fairly ignorant concerning sports and steroids so he will probably try and focus on cheating, drug use in youths, and supposed steroid related deaths such as Lyle Alzedo. Take charge of the coversation and always turn the question around by highlighting the benefits steroids can have on people.

Sorry for being long winded but I have been arguing this for so long that I could go on for hours.

Good luck and make us proud,
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posted April 20, 2001 03:03 PM

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George,

There is really is no defense when speaking of organized tested professional sports. AS def. give an unfair advantage. Now if EVERY athlete had access and it was legal to use within the sport...that would be different. But more importantly:
It is extremely important that you try and express how bad publicity and propoganda has completely blown the whole AS issue out of proportion. This is a golden opportunity for the public to see just how ridiculous many of the "Old Wive's Tales" are about AS. I also love to use the following points:
Look at the amount of deaths caused as a direct result of tobacco use in our country today. Then look at the amount of deaths linked to AS in our country. Tobacco: Bought by 18 year olds....LEGAL...extremely accessible....
AS: Illegal...even for responsible personal use, put on the same level as Crack Cocaine and Heroin, viewed as an evil rage-inducing, cancer-causing, liver-destroying toxin (LOL). The amount of time WASTED putting AS users through the legal system when these resources could be put to work on bettering a part of society that truly needs improving!! ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! I would use the following statement: "to the general public, I want you to forget everything you've ever heard about AS. Wipe it from your mind because 99% of everything you've ever heard from society and even many physicians is completely and severely wrong or exxagerrated. Here is the TRUTH about AS"....Don't back down George...tell it to 'em like it is...its a great chance to support all us bros!! Good Luck!
PS-Could you post what station and when it will air in NY?

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some points maybe that could help:

1. what kills more people, drunk drivers or people on gear.

2. how can we praise olympic athletes but yet say how bad gear is.

3. plastic surgery is legal but yet gear isn't?

4. you can smoke and give people second hand smoke legally but u can't stick yourself

5. would the situation surrounding gear be better if it could be prescribed by doctors?

6. why has the media bashed people on gear? jealousy?

7. how is gear considered so unnatural but yet taking supplements and vitamins are natural?

that's all i can think of now, besides my chicken is over cooking. good luck and remember to prepare very well ahead of time. plan out all possible questions that they could critique you on. if you aren't prepared to be critiqued then you'll burn. good luck


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George, I'm sure you know all this but, as I've directed about 10,00 interviews:

Don't be afraid to interrupt your interviewer--makes you seem dynamic.

Short, punchy answers keep people listening longer than drawn-out paragraphs.

Stats are good when they're at the top of your answer--grabs the listeners' attention, esp. when it's a provocative number ("X% per cent of Americans die of heart disease--only X% from steriod use!)

Radio, like TV, is faster than real life, so don't be afraid to be very animated, up-beat (it's not NPR, thank heavens).

Good luck--can we hear the broadcast or read the transcripts on this site?


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some more things to mention:

1) no one has ever died from roids!!!! never.
2)cycling 3 months out of the year can be good for you!
3)please quote alot of studies, especially the famous nejm/enanthate one so you dont look (sound) like a complete fool.
4) omna=sust dammit!

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If they start bitching about steroids, counter with these:

How come women who get sex changes can take steroids but men trying to better themselves, can't.

Why is it okay for women to get breast implants and then bitch to guys who want to improve their bodies through science as well.

Don't AIDS and cancer patients get steroids prescribed to them?


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quote:
Originally posted by George Spellwin:
Dear friends and fellow athletes,

On Tuesday, I am appearing on the radio talk show The Zone WQXI 790 AM in Atlanta. The topic of the day is Anabolic Steroids and supplements. And in particular Anabolic Steroids in Pro Sports.

I would really like to hear your comments, arguments, and opinions on some of the questions that will likely be asked.

What percentage of Pro Athletes use Anabolic Steroids?
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Pro Athletes, eh? Well if you are talking about olympics and such, my guess would be 100% of athletes using gear of some sort.

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What percentage of Pro Athletes use supplements?

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Depends on country i guess....not sure but i would think most of them...look above.

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Are Anabolic Steroids and Supplements in pro sports cheating and why not?

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Nope, gear makes a difference between pro and amature sports. Amature you do it for yourself, love of sport and for your own health(well, with some exceptions...). Pro you doing it for money or for your country, results are the only thing that count.
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How does the use of Anabolic Steroids in Pro sports influence the young?
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Well, everyone see it as a majic pill, kind of shortcut. Does not work this way. Or does it?
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What are the benefits of Anabolic Steroids?
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Ill letcha know after my first cycle.
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Your comments on any other questions that will likely be asked are appreciated.


Just my opinion, feel free to flame me.
Thank you for your time.

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george,
first..hope you recieved the slides I sent you..
if you asked me 3 years ago about anabolics, I would have said no way..if fact 3 years ago I know nothing of AAS..
AAS can be used benificially if used correctly...these are not magic and as we know, the best anabolic is food...is it cheating..if everyone is using them ..no..they could test olympic winners and disqualify them, but why not check the superbowl winners..would this ever happen...baltimore ravens disqualified for using anabolic steroids..to much money in the sport for this to happen....this is a sensitive issue that involves alot of politics...
they should be legalized...or at least classified schedual 1..after all, nobody is killing and stelling to get gear money....good luck GS


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If they start saying that steroids are addictive, explain that some people get addicted to steroids, just like some people get addicted to food. Some drugs like nicotine and opium have addictive properties: everyone will get addicted, steroids do not. Some people will get addicted to it, just like other people get addicted to sex or food.


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You should also mention a very large portion of today's steroid users are persons using it for aesthetic reasons, not athletic.
They are using for the look they get, the increased muscle mass and body size! That's why I use them!


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hey say my name.....please....i dont live where you live so i cant here you on the radio then?plus say my name and my "ultralines"..you know on the bottom =)....pllllllease 'GEORGE' say my name....and yell it out a couple of times...=)

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ya 'GEORGE'....tell them that its fine to use juice..=)...."juice to the max"(but take it easy if you can).....oh ya say my naem...yell it out a couple of times..i well have my mom listen and she well love it if she hears my name...and i have my friends listen so they think iam 'ultrafamous'......and say this to if you can...only well take a couple of secs..."whats up the the "ultrajuicer" name 'ultragainz'(something like that well do)..and then start yelling out my name if you like..."ultragainz"!ultragainz"!ultragainz"!and so on.........really my parnets well listen.so say my name a couple of times....and say i only take vitamins("ultravitamins"well do also) so my mom dose not get to worried...=)

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GEORGE, On the topic of the danger of steroid use, first ask how many people die a year from steroid use which is illeagal, then you go for the GRAND SLAM and ask how many people die a year from cancer and car accidents caused by SMOKING and ALCOHOL which are both LEGAL substances!

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if the host is anti steriod be prepared for him to bring up lyle alyzado


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In my opinion, I'd go PC. Don't try to fight a losing battle. They (radio station execs) couldn't give a damn about your view, they are simply looking for something to enforce the public's opinion and to take their side.
The best offense is a good defense. Let them ask their questions, then reply in an educated, nonassertive manner. Again, you WILL NOT change their point of view, however if we can sneak a little subliminal message by inserting little tidbits that will work as food for thought as opposed as a firm stand. It is my opinion that that approach will get your "message" across unseen, therefore, indefenseable.
Victory will be yours and they will never know what hit them. Go get 'em Geo!

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Good Day George,

I feel the urge to reply to this post. I am a typical reader, who does not reply often, but I couldn't help myself this time. As a former Big Ten football player who went on to play 2 years in the NFL Europe league and a current player in Arena Football, I'd like to offer my 2 cents. I feel that a large percentage of pro athletes use AS. NFL Europe and the Arena football league only test for steroids once in the beginning of the season (while we're all still in the states). Alot of teams are located in countries where AS are legal, so they don't test once your there. I believe a bro in an earlier post mentioned that only 20%-30% of all baseball players would test positive for steroids. I think many would be surprised to find out that the number is more like 50%-60%. Major League Baseball doesn't even have a policy against steroid use. If you've noticed the recent trends in scoring and homeruns in that sport alot of that can be directly attributed to Anabolics.

I believe the use of supplements is a common practice in all sports.

Many believe your only cheating if you get caught. In the nature of most sports, theres alot of penalties that go uncalled, but I wouldn't necessarily say its cheating. Using that same premise if your anabolic use goes uncalled your not necessarily cheating.

I think the use of steroids make alot of a young persons goals unattainable unless they result to the same options. If you've got a guy that uses anything from Andro to testosterone and hits 71 HR's that goal could be very unattainable without some sort of products.

George, I hope I have been of some assistance


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Knock em dead GEORGE!!!!


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HOW ABOUT THIS:

STEROID USE WILL NEVER STOP, EVER. AS LONG AS THERE ARE ATHLETES WHO WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR OVERALL LOOK AND APPEARENCE AND/OR PERFORMANCE, THERE WILL BE SOME FORM OF CHEMICAL SUBSTANCE OR SURGICAL METHOD BEING USED TO HELP ACHIEVE THESE GOALS, LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. THE POPULATION AS A WHOLE WOULD BENEFIT FAR MORE FROM THE LEGALIZATION OF STEROID USE, COUPLED WITH AN OBJECTIVE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM GEARED TOWARDS INFORMING USERS ABOUT POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS AND THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH ABUSE. AS IT STANDS, THE LAWS IN PLACE SERVE NO REAL PURPOSE, AS STEROID USE CONTINUES TO GROW AND TAX PAYERS CONTINUE TO LOSE THEIR TAX DOLLARS TO A LEGAL SYSTEM INCAPABLE OF STOPPING THE INTEREST IN STEROID USE.

I COULD GO ON, AND ON...

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posted April 21, 2001 07:05 PM

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Slip it in there somehow about all the health and wellness clinics popping up everywhere with Doctors perscribing GH and Testosterone for "Improved Quality of Living".


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