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Cool Novice 
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I want to start on a fat cutting diet. My metabolism is low right now and I want to give it a boost. I wanted to start out with some clenbuterol and Cytomel, what would be a good dosing regimen? How do you keep ketones from giving you a urinary tract infection when eating high protein? The only thing is to drink, drink, DRINK? I know some products are illegal but is Clenbuterol and Cytomel considered illegal? Any help toward me reaching my goal would be appreciated. I want to get this fat off and just begin to live life more heathfully. My mother now has adult-onset diabetes and it is showing up in all of her sisters. I don't want to end up in that boat. Thanks guys for having this forum!    | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1686 |
hey babe....want a "ultraman" in your life?LOL..=)...just take the e/c/a stack and workout like a "ultrawomen"..you good looking?...can you handle 228 pounds of "ultramuscle"?....LOL...=). ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 645 |
ultra chill the fuck out !!! Magda pay no attention to our resident idiot. You can use the clen but stay away from the T3. It is very serious. DO YOUR HOMEWORK please for your own safety.
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Olympian
Posts: 1686 |
damn bro....no need to get mad...just a joke..=).. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 225 |
hey mag,clens would be ok but i wouldnt suggest the cytomel first time out and also theres a chance with excessive dosage your body can become dependent on them because it alters your thyroid regulator and so happens to be more sensitive to women.anavar would also be a better choice it works well on woman and its main fuction is to increase lean muscle mass so take it in stride and research first before you start..good luck | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
LOL, your cute but I just married a Latino man. Sorry!  Is e/c/a ephedra caffine and aspirin? Why does ephedra give headaches and how can I avoid those headaches? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
I went to a diet doctor once a long time ago (around 97) to get some pounds off quick before a wedding. I think he used thyroid hormones because I did eat right but I did not exercise much due to planning and time restraints of the wedding and I still lost 32 pounds in a month. I know it was fat too because areas like my inside thighs got a lot smaller...you know places that usually take a lot more exercise to get down. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1686 |
no need to get mad bro....she is not mad....=).... ------------------ | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1686 |
whats your weight right know?....what your tring to do? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
ultra play nice with the ladies. Magda, try yohimbine HCL. It will help you with the fat on on the thighs and midsection. You should be fine with ECA, I've never heard of headaches. DNP as a LAST resort. The T3 will cause you to burn fat but you will burn muscle too. You do no want this. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
This is really embarrassing but I need to lose about 100 pounds. I gained weight during my divorce (probably from drinking!) and then I became sick last year with a pneumonia with a resulting auto-immune response so I was bed-bound for months and gained like 40 pounds! I was wanting to perhaps jump start it with about a month of the clen/cytomel due to my low exercise tolerance. I was hoping to get some of the weight off before really exercising because when I try to exercise and walk a lot now, my joints really hurt a lot. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Is yohimbine herbal? What is DNP. I used to lift weights when I was younger but I have not for a long time. I don't know the terminology any more. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1686 |
dont worry keep your head up......you well get in better shape....dont let anyone talk trash to you.. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
You may be a good canidate for DNP. Read up on it with the search on this board. Good luck | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Thanks Ultra, It is a very daunting task but if I don't start now I will never get there! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Thanks ana, going to search. Will be back later. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Would Clomid keep me from losing muscle? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
No, not on T3. You will need a AS such as Winny. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
I read that women that would like to have children some day shouldnt use DNP. Sorry I dont know the specifics of the statement or even if its true but please research the hell out of DNP before you even consider using it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
It was used in the 30's as a diet drug, and taken off the shelf only because a small percentage of women developed cateracts. Today we know how to combat this side effect. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Magda why are you worried about losing muscle? It doesnt sound like you are a bodybuilder so losing a little muscle shouldnt be a problem. You wont notice any muscle loss if you need to drop 100 lbs. My wife and I have both used t3 without and gear and while I wont do it again as I want to keep all my muscle , my wife was very happy with the weight lost. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
I just thought a T3 would be a good place to start because I did the temperature test and I have a lower basal body temp than I should, evidencing an underactive thyroid, but probably not enough for a doctor to start me on much. I understand that I would need to use clen and cytomel on cycles in order not to permanently effect my thyroid gland (i.e. 5 weeks on/5 weeks off) I am just unsure of the dosage I should try. I am a little bit nervous too. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
I was not refering to the cateracts problem. I read on the womens board that women can have a problem with not being able to have children after the use of DNP. I didnt research it as it doesnt apply to men. But please check around on the womens board for more info. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
How did she use it Kooky? I want to do some weight lifting w/lot of reps, low weights but I really cannot do a lot of aerobic work right now. I want to get some of the pounds off before I start walking again. Also, I will eat properly too. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
The main problem you face is "coming off". After you stop the T3 and have lost your weight(up to half could be muscle) you now will have to eat less than when you started, because you are now carrying less muscle mass. Their are no magic pills. Whatever you use will have it's side effects. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
That sound like a sensible plan Magda , Walking can be rough on the knees , lower back and joints when your weight is a little on the high end. Though swiming is great cardio and you might want to incorporate a bit of light swimming if your gym has a pool. As for the t3 use she used 25 mcg/day with e/c/a stack and lost about 30 lbs in a little over a month. Her diet could have been better but it was too bad overall. [This message has been edited by Kookyguy (edited April 20, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
When I went to that fat doctor in 97 he gave me a fluid pill, a multivitamin, a stimulant (phentermine) and what I am sure had to be a thyroid pill. But when I came off it I was actually energized and my metabolism was higher (I guess more normal) I am looking for that effect again. On that diet, I ate 600 calories a day, good food, no junk. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
anabolic24/7 Magda would not lose all that much muscle on t3 for 4 weeks at 25 mcg/day. She might have to drop her total calories by mabey 50 calories per day. She wouldnt even notice 50 calories a day. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Magda do not go as low as 600 calories a day unless under the supervision of a doctor. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Also, I have heard about Triacana as it is a T3, just not as much as Cytomel. One thing that interested me was a cream that you could apply to trouble spots. Could I powder Cytomel and put it in a cream? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 645 |
I am not saying anymore. I think she's looking for the "magic" pill and hasn't given enough thought to disipline. T3 is not selective. If it isn't burning much muscle it wont be burning much fat. Without an AS. With 100 pounds to loose she can drop 30 in 30 days with diet alone. [This message has been edited by anabolic24/7 (edited April 20, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Yes, 600 calories a day I was under the supervision of a doctor w/EKG, blood work, etc. I don't even think I could do 600 again. I was thinking about 900 to 1,000. Kooky, did she go one month on/one month off? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Magda you should start posting on the womens board as they will have alot more first hand experience and advice for you. Oh and check out the diet board as well , great info over there. You are of course welcome here but I think you will get more and posibly better advice on the womens board. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Magda my wife just did 1 month of t3 and never used it again. She lost all the weight she needed to. Oh and anabolic24/7 is 100% right when he says you can lose 30 lbs on a strict diet alone. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
Magda, be carefull with T3 ! Your metabolism will even be slower after you finished using it!ECA stack (e=20mg,c=200mg,a=300mg) is a much better and safer choice.Take it 1/2 hour before breakfast and 1/2 hour before noon meal.And most off all do some CARDIO early in the mornig BEFORE breakfast!!!You will be amazed of the (LASTING!!)results. PS. I use it the year round,5 days a week, that way i can keep the fat more or less away when i'm bulking up.Good dieting!!BE IN SHAPE FOR SUMMER!! Seeya STEVE | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
I know about the strict dieting, but my metabolism is low already and after a few days I am even more sluggish. Also, when I try to really up my protien and cut my carbs, I get a urinary tract infection from the ketones. I am not looking for a magic pill. I just wanted to get some of this weight off (30 to 50 pounds) quickly BEFORE I started back on my exercise regimen without out it hindering my metabolism. When I do my exercise now now, I have so many joint pains I cannot sleep at night. Thanks for the help guys! I appreciate it. I will go to the women's board. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Magda did we lose you? I hope we didnt scare you off  Magda feel free to email me if you need any more help. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Thanks Steve! I am going to do my best!! Thanks everyone! I have searched and searched and the only place I have found any good, consistent information has been at this site. Thanks again! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
I don't scare easily Kooky, but I do want as much information as I can get, pro or con before I make any decisions, all posts are welcome. The reason I am so curious about this is that I am quite sure I was on thyroid med when I went to the fat doctor and it worked so well for me! I also have been checking on a lot of dietary changes. I am even growing my own vegetables. I have almost cut potatoes out of my diet (trying to!) because of the incidence of adult onset diabetes in my family. I also am checking on the best exercise for my body and to build my strength. I want to be a good role model for my little girl but also I want to be a hot momma! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 234 |
Good! Im glad we didnt scare you off You have all the resources you will ever need right on these boards , Just keep reading and asking questions. But keep in mind its spring and alot of folks are dieting right now and they may be a lil grumpy [This message has been edited by Kookyguy (edited April 20, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
LOL thanks! I want to do this right. I don't want a quick fix to look good for a certain thing. I want this to be a begiining to a stronger (and hopefully a hell of a lot more engergetic) lifestyle. I have to go but I will check back on this thread. Thank you everyone! Oh, by the way, I have a very supportive husband. We have not been married very long (only a year) but he helps me greatly and makes me feel really good about myself. That is a big step there and makes a person really want to succeed. goodnight! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Olympian
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Glad they didn't scare you off. My personal choice would be ECA. DNP is very harsh, I don't know if you've researched it yet but it can kill you by literally cooking you from the inside if you overdose on it. It also happens to be the most effective fat burner by far but if you do decide on it, research it thoroughly. Clen is OK for a short period but I personally don't like T3. I know a lot of guys with permanently messed up thyroids from it so again be careful if you use it. Most importantly though is the diet. It is not all about total daily calories either. My g/f used to hardly eat anything and since she started eating more frequently in smaller portions she has seen a difference. It increases the metabolism when you eat say 6 small meals a day as opposed to 3 larger ones. Last week I was told that chewing gum all day can increase your metabolism by up to 20% due to the increase in digestive enzymes produced. As for your excercise plan you are right to stick to high rep weights. Impact aerobic excercise will stress the joints and cause injury if you are carrying a little too much. I'd stay well away from running and when you do start your aerobics do cycling or rowing so there's less stress on the knees etc. It is good that you have made the decision to get back in shape. After a divorce, drinking and your illness it must have been difficult, especially with your little girl to raise as well. I am sure you will get where you want to be and make your daughter and new hubby proud. Remember this, it is a motto I use which was told me by a very successful trainer of champions: Looking good and feeling fit is the best revenge! You've got the motivation there so keep it consistant and show them all. |
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posted April 20, 2001 12:17 AM