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Jafar

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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posted April 19, 2001 09:00 PM

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Is there any way to alleviate some of the miserableness associated with coming off? Jesus! I finished my third cycle ever, rather potent combination of Anadrol 50 and Test Enanthate. And now, I'm a bitch. Clomid is making me nuts, depressed as hell and what not, I got sick, (probably from suppresed immune function) so I'm losing weight, in general I feel like a fucking turd.

How miserable! You go from feeling like a bronze god to feeling like liquid shit. Does it get better after more cycles? My last two were deffinately not this bad coming off. I mean I noticed it, was a little depressed, but not like this.

Is it all mental or is this pretty common?


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vinnie

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted April 19, 2001 09:07 PM

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I too get this way man. I never get a bad case of depression but enough to keep me in doors. I try to keep my motivation. The hardest part for me was continuing the hard workouts and not seeing any gains. even worse when you start losing weight. I would also like to hear some opinions on this matter


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stackndeca

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posted April 19, 2001 09:07 PM

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when i came off my first cycle i started smokin a lot of pot and got sick as well as lost everything i gained

[This message has been edited by stackndeca (edited April 19, 2001).]


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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 19, 2001 09:08 PM

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POST CYCLE DEPRESSION IS VERY COMMON. I JUST CAME OFF MY CYCLE ABOUT 1 1/2 WEEKS AGO AND AM NOT LOOKING FOWARD TO STARTING CLOMID IN A COUPLE OF DAYS

M18

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vinnie

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posted April 19, 2001 09:12 PM

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lets all bridge HAHAHA j/k


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Rugby

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posted April 19, 2001 09:14 PM

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solution: no more cycling

TIME TO GO YEAR ROUND


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JohnnyO

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posted April 19, 2001 09:17 PM

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I'm seriously considering a eq bridge at 200 a week into the next cycle.


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anabolic24/7

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posted April 19, 2001 09:22 PM

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I agree, it sucks to come off. I see why some never do.


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Rugby

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posted April 19, 2001 09:24 PM

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2oomg/eq will affect natural testosterone.... Might as welll bridge with 500mg enanthate and HCG


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kid

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posted April 19, 2001 09:24 PM

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bridge with some primo's or anavar. the thing is thought the next time you come off, the same thing is going to happen. suck it up and lift hard.


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vdevil

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posted April 19, 2001 09:25 PM

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Rugby hit it. Dont come off. Just bridge.
Gotta keep growin'........

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MUSTANG_18

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posted April 20, 2001 12:25 AM

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JOHHNYO, I AM PRETTY SURE THAT 200MG/WEEK OF EQ WOULD AFFECT YOUR NATURAL TEST LEVELS. PRIMO OR ANAVAR WOULD BE GREAT FOR A BRIDGE WHILE GETING YOUR NATURAL TEST LEVELS BACK. BEST OF LUCK MY FRIEND

M18

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thefacelessballer

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posted April 20, 2001 12:38 AM

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i kind aliked coming off cycle..
loosing water that i was hoding so i didnt fell like a fatass any more was great.. sure strenght and size decreases and depressing.. but
i can deal with it knowing that im better off than i would have been if i had done it naturally


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wizardnor

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posted April 20, 2001 12:49 AM

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funny funny you getting off and i can't on steroids i like to do a cycle i can't get steroids
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Originally posted by Rugby:
solution: no more cycling

TIME TO GO YEAR ROUND


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vinnie

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posted April 20, 2001 02:02 AM

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i have never bridged but asked about it. majority said to use primo. is this because of the short life or due to it being mild? would like to hear opinions.


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greatshape

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posted April 20, 2001 02:11 AM

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If i would bridge, i 'd use primo, because it doesn't fuck up your endogenious system, and is NOT liver/kidney toxic.Have bloodscreens and you will see everything will return to normal, even when you 're using primo!


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TheDragon

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posted April 20, 2001 03:02 AM

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After my first cycle (ended in december) I got a little weaker, but didnt lose any weight. Then around the end of January, I started to feel good and I gained another 6lbs all of a sudden. Could it be because of my body producing natural test again...could that of given me some kind of boost? I was considering putting off my next cycle til later, but didnt wait..I just ended it this week. Hopefully this one will turn out like my first and ill keep all the gains.


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b fold the truth

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posted April 20, 2001 03:19 AM

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When you come off...try using slin and creatine. Throw in some supps too just for fun. Also...switch your goals and routine all around. Maybe try some strictly Olympic type lifting for about 3-4 weeks...then regroup and hit the regular routine again...just enough to convince yourself that it isn't the gear that is making you weaker.

B True


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Suspension

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posted April 20, 2001 03:33 AM

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I use...

Slin, clen, creatine, lots of glutamine, gaba, vitamin C & E, and a multivitamin to help preserve my gains.


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strengthmonster

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posted April 20, 2001 04:55 AM

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That's the trouble with A-bombs. You blow up but when you come off nearly all that weight will drop, leaving you mentally fucked.


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Jafar

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From:Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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posted April 20, 2001 07:00 AM

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Yeah, but the thing is I used these two drugs in a cutting cycle. I traded about 10 lbs of fat for about 8 lbs of muscle in about 5 weeks. Was dieting real hard and doing tons of cardio.


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MassKing

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posted April 20, 2001 07:04 AM

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i dont mind coming off for a short while. its kinda nice when all the water and bloat drops from ya. its hard to tell how much you are really gaining when on so i like the3-4weeks that i take off between to see what i accomplished,get my head on straight, and get ready for the next cycle. i normally will do alot more cardio then 3-4 times per week for 30min. bridge with primo, its more effective and cheaper thank anything else for a bridge.


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lawnsaver

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posted April 20, 2001 10:38 AM

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Throw in another anti-estrogen. The elevated estrogen is playing a major role in your mood. I add proviron for a few weeks with the clomid to help. I also do insulin/creatine/glutamine for 6 weeks or so to keep size and strength. I usually add some t3 with the slin to keep some of the fat off. After the 6 weeks I take a few off to heal my joints.

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Sizedoesmatter

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posted April 20, 2001 11:21 AM

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It's been 1 month now since my last shot of Sust 500mg / Deca 300mg per week. Did an 8 week cycle. This was my first ever cycle I might add.

2 weeks after my last shot I started on Clen. The third week after the last shot I started Clomid. Also cut back on the carbs, but am keeping protein high with moderate fats. Today I began my 2 weeks of E/C/A (since the second week of Clen was up yesterday). Clomid is still running for 2 more weeks at 50mg ed.

Overall, I feel really good. I've dropped about 10 lbs so far, but my strength hasn't really fallen off very much. It's just not going any higher. I cut back on the number of training days per week, but I'm still training very instense on the days I do go.

The big thing, in my opinion, is planning everything out and sticking to it. I planned everything out on a calender. My shot days, training days, when to start what at post-cycle. I even mentally conditioned myself for when I came off. I knew that awesome wave I was riding wouldn't continue. Training hard is helping to keep most of what I gained also.

Still, there's some things you can't plan for. Guess I was just lucky in those aspects. Illness is the biggy!

Good luck to all coming off!

Size


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Big Brother Val

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posted April 20, 2001 11:58 AM

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I'd rather get kicked in the balls by a mule than not be on....
I just can't afford year round.
Damnit.


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T-Biggs

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posted April 20, 2001 12:10 PM

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Well Jafar you are coming off Anadrol, which has a reputation for causing extreme depression, sick feeling not to mention you lose allot of your gains once off-the weight that you have lost is all the water that you retained while on Anadrol. My suggestion is to go for the less toxic gear (Deca, Primo etc...) which are easier to come off of if proper steps are taken (tapering off) not to mention the use of HCG, Clomid........gains are kept and that shit feeling is not as apparent.


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ripped103

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posted April 20, 2001 12:19 PM

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i know the feeling.it sucks to come off and i too get very depressed and win up partying a lot more than usual to deal with it, but now im truly dedicated and decided to stay on year round.if i can afford it i will stay on gh all year at a maintanence dose and then up it during cycling time


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Mad Max

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posted April 20, 2001 12:48 PM

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Coming off is by far the shittiest thing to go through. The effects of clomid don't help your mood at all. But the good thing is that it usually only last for 3 weeks in my cases. Then I feel real good about my accomplishments of the previous cycle. Just be prepared and that will help alot.
---PEACE---Mad Max


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DrJay

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posted April 20, 2001 01:21 PM

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Coming off is definitely the worst part. After my 2nd cycle I really crashed hard mainly due to not being smart (didn't use clomid or anything) I was depressed thinking I was small (probably lost 13 of the 25 lbs I gained) and all kinds of weird shit - had trouble sleeping and wouldn't wear tank tops - I hated it for the next 10 weeks till I got back on. I think I've found what works for my body though - clen! After my 3rd I took some with clomid and maybe lost 3 of the 20 I gained - my strength was still high and the size stayed! People were asking me if I was still on and couldn't believe I was off - thats a good feeling! I learned a valuable lesson though and never wanna feel like that again. I know everyones different but I really think my body responds well to clen and clomid so until I can afford to stay on thats what I'll do!

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ROAD DOG

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posted April 20, 2001 03:37 PM

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I go throgh mood swings when I come off.Somedays I feel big and strong,And other days I feel like a skinny little maggot.What keeps me on the positive side is to think of where I was before I started.


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