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posted April 19, 2001 05:20 AM

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Well, I just swallowed my first DNP tab (200mg) a couple minutes ago. Along with it, I took Vitamins C & E, Se, Ca, Fe, and a tbsp of Glycerol (a routine I'll repeat 3 times a day). I'll also be taking Mg at night. Feel pretty good so far ! I'll keep ya'll posted as to how it's going.

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posted April 19, 2001 05:26 AM

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FONZ: Since you recommend a 7on-12off DNP routine, I have a question for you. Can you put on muscle with AS during that 12 off? Let's say on the morning of Day 8 (the first off day), I inject 200mg Deca, and in addition take 20mg D-bol ed for the entire 12 days. Since I'm gonna be carb loading for 3-4 of those days anyway, along with heavy lifting, couldn't I theoretically put on at least some muscle with this combo? I'm curious about this b/c I'm not all that big to begin with, and I don't want to lose what muscle I do have while doing DNP. What do you think? Thanks.

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posted April 19, 2001 07:08 AM

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FONZ: I read what you wrote about losing even more fat with DNP if you START off in a state of ketosis/glycogen depletion. You recommended me to shoot for 2000cal/day for "instantaneous gratification." Should I stick to my planned Isometric 33/33/33 diet, or do you think I should cut carbs more? What kind of ratio would you recommend? Thanks a lot!

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BSmooth

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posted April 19, 2001 09:11 AM

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I would cut carbs more because the more carbs you eat, the hotter your body will get. I'd say 20% or less would be ideal.

As for putting on muscle in those 12 days off, YES its VERY possible. Once you are done with the DNP, you will have what is called anabolic rebound. You will find it very easy to put on muscle.

However, the answers to both these questions are easy. Why haven't you done more research before starting DNP? You should have known the answer to both these questions. I do, and I have never done DNP.


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Dingo12

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posted April 19, 2001 09:22 AM

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Off course you feel OK. Give it a few hours and you'll feel hot, but OK. Give it a few days and BAM!


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Cuts

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posted April 19, 2001 10:28 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by BSmooth:
I would cut carbs more because the more carbs you eat, the hotter your body will get. I'd say 20% or less would be ideal.

As for putting on muscle in those 12 days off, YES its VERY possible. Once you are done with the DNP, you will have what is called anabolic rebound. You will find it very easy to put on muscle.

However, the answers to both these questions are easy. Why haven't you done more research before starting DNP? You should have known the answer to both these questions. I do, and I have never done DNP.


I did do quite a bit of research before I started, but I found lots of differences of opinions from different sources... some saying to cut out carbs totally, Duchaine saying Isometric... Also, I heard about this "anabolic rebound" effect, but I was under the impression that this was just a temporary state and not really new muscle. How do roids (e.g. Deca-D-bol) fit into this equation?

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rich197

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posted April 19, 2001 10:34 AM

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I to started my DNP yesturday it was a warm night to say the least. but I am hoping to drop my last few pounds on this cycle which shoul dnot be to hard wit what I have done in the past on DNP


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Fonz

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posted April 19, 2001 02:10 PM

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Oh boy you're in for a surprise.

Normally, during the first day of DNP administration
heat radiation is negligible. You feel completely
normal. Apetite is slightly increased bu thats it.
At the end of the second day(at 600mg), you WILL
BE sweating like nobodies business. Use a fan.
Macronutrient wise concentrate on proteins. Keep
Fats and carbs low. I find sugar-free fat-free
yoghurt to be a great snack.(Well 3Kg of it ).
You'll get hungry. Use ephedrine at 100mg/day.
So a 50%prot/30%carbs/20%fat is a good ratio.
2000Kcal/day is ideal.
Don't even bother trying to gain muscle on Day 8.
This day is when you have THE GREATEST DNP
level in your body. You'll feel like a warmed shit.
I wouldn't bother. the "rebound" effect people
experience after a DNP cycle is because of
the ATP depletion the DNP causes. After
a cycle, the body super-compensates and you
can put on a good deal of muscle in the next
week or so.

Godspeed


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bigrand

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posted April 19, 2001 02:41 PM

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The anabolic rebound is probobly from restocking of glycogen in muscle tissue, makeing it seem like its anabolic, when you are basically going back to normal. I never felt this rebound and i have only read about a few bros that have.


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rich197

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posted April 19, 2001 02:50 PM

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day 2 and I am heating up I have a big love hate thing for DNP love the results had the feeling but whatever it is only 8 days of hell. for a summer of greatness


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posted April 19, 2001 03:59 PM

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Just took my 2nd dose. Still don't feel anything... I guess (I hope) I will by tomorrow night.

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IronFist

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posted April 19, 2001 04:06 PM

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Cuts, give it about 3 days and it should really start to put you on you ass.


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Fener

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posted April 19, 2001 06:29 PM

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hey fonz, what happens if you eat 4000kclas/day instead of 2000, still 50%prot ,30%carbs,20%fat.Would you produce much more heat?


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posted April 19, 2001 08:56 PM

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I think 200mgs is a low dose and you won't feel the fire some have. I'm not saying you won't get results cause this shit works trust me. But once again like anything be patient the suffering will come.


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posted April 19, 2001 09:04 PM

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BEST OF LUCK CUTS!! I WILL BE FOLLOWING YOUR PROGRESS AND LOOK FOWARD TO HEARING YOUR UPDATES.

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posted April 20, 2001 12:26 AM

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you can use AS the 12 days off dnp, but short cycles aren't too effective. you can use it while on dnp, but just realize that you will lose some intensity in the gym and won't be able to maximize the benefits of AS. when i use dnp (8mg/kg-bw) i can't think of going to the gym. i take about 5 days off from working out.


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Fonz

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posted April 20, 2001 12:58 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fener:
hey fonz, what happens if you eat 4000kclas/day instead of 2000, still 50%prot ,30%carbs,20%fat.Would you produce much more heat?


Yes. DNP blocks ATP which is produced from
glucose.
Conversion rates for glucose:

1. Protein: 58%
2. Carbs: 100%
3. Fat 10%

So yes, you'll definately get VERY hot.

Godspeed


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Vovan

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posted April 20, 2001 03:37 AM

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Cool! Dont forget to update this topic tomorrow I'm about to start mine dnp cycle too...

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posted April 20, 2001 06:27 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by gettingdiesel:
I think 200mgs is a low dose and you won't feel the fire some have. I'm not saying you won't get results cause this shit works trust me. But once again like anything be patient the suffering will come.

I'm doing 400mg/day (not 200) in two divided doses.

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posted April 20, 2001 06:34 AM

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Just took dose #3 (AM-2nd day). Last night I felt a little warm, so I slept with the fan pointed toward me. I'm not sure if that was the DNP kicking in or just some kind of placebo effect. I also had some difficulty falling asleep last night... is insomnia a known side effect of DNP too? Still feel pretty much normal... no real heat or sweating yet. I'll post again tonight after my PM dose.

quote:
Originally posted by MUSTANG_18:
BEST OF LUCK CUTS!! I WILL BE FOLLOWING YOUR PROGRESS AND LOOK FOWARD TO HEARING YOUR UPDATES.

M18


Thanks for the motivation Mustang!

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jdismukes

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posted April 20, 2001 07:00 AM

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How are you feeling today? Keep us updated, best wishes


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Cuts

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posted April 20, 2001 09:59 AM

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So far so good. Starting to feel slightly warmer and breaking a light sweat. Did 30 minutes low intensity on the treadmill this morning before breakfast... it was somewhat tougher than it usually is.

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posted April 20, 2001 02:36 PM

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Been studying at my desk all day, but I could still feel my skin moist with sweat... not dripping or pouring, just a thin film everywhere. Oh yeah, I've been a little drowsy all day long too, irrespective of the fact that I slept like 10 hours last night. Next dose scheduled for a couple hours later...

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posted April 20, 2001 06:13 PM

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Just took PM dose on Day 2. I did feel a little warm & sweaty all day, but nothing like what I've read for some other guys who drenched themselves with perspiration. Is the stuff working? Why aren't I sweating more? Post again after tomorrow's AM dose...

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