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 Can i get fucked up once a week and still gain?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I have a friend who is bulit like a greek god and he drinks all the time what is you bros experence?     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 20 |
and he never gets dehidrated ? amazing is like the man of steel ,,, may he share his secrets now that sounds unlikely. he just drink lots of water after ward to counter act the dehidration right?
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1187 |
I really don't like the idea of drinking myself. Drinking dehydrates you, slows down protein synthesis, decreases natural GH levels and testosterone levels, and has many other side effects that aren't beneficial to bodybuilding goals. It all depends on how serious you are and what your goals are I guess. Think of it this way. If you drink heavily only one day, it takes your body about 2 days to fully recover from your drinking binge. You've wasted approximately %30 of your potential growth for the week... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 167 |
i'm going to have to bump this, deao, you definately know your shit, good post, i learn something new everyday from you bro's. i'm not a big fan of drinking, and now that i'm on a cycle, i am definately not going to drink. but that was definately a good response. b u m p m p ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 107 |
drinking while on a cycle makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Taking AS is serious business and should be treated as such. If you feel like you have to drink and get hammered i would stay away from AS because you are wasting your money. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 448 |
daeo, if i drink a beer or two (max) before i go to bed, will my protein synthesis, gh and testosterone levels be affected? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 33 |
drinking plain and simple has no benefits to you except tearing you down, take it from a person with many years of it. It's been 2yrs and will never consume it AGAIN!!! I know where my car is in the morning now????? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 107 |
one or 2 beers aren't going to hamper gains. drink 12oz of water with every beer to keep you hydrated. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
Everytime i get drunk (which is maybe 6-8 times a year) i might have a great time, but i feel like shit for 2-3 days after. Plus i've lost as much as 10 pounds in one night of boozin due to dehydration, and i drink whiskey and lots of water. It kills my appetite for 2-3 days also, save the boozin for when your off gear, and only on friday nights,( once in a while) when you can relax and enjoy yourself.  | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
While I agree with the non-drinking thing (obviously suggest G or some tabs instead if one must party)... The old school guys like Arnold drank their balls off (not before a show)... All things equal, they ruled during their time... I think the human body can take much more of a beating than we think -- the mind is a powerful influencer -- I have family members in their mid-90's that have eaten red meat just about every day of their lives... If they had been told 75 years ago that it was bad for them, they probably would have died 20 years ago  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 467 |
Arnold drank once in a while? So what! How do you know he was doing a cycle while drinking? Guys are huger now, and maybe thats because they DONT drink. Drinking while on a cycle is stupid. If you are using AS, you should treat them with respect and be dedicated towards your diet and your goals. Drinking once a week will definately hamper your goals. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 941 |
Why do it anyway? I mean... gettin' dizzy and pukin' and feeling shitty after... WOOHOO!!! What a great time. It's like busting yourself in the legs with a sledge hammer, and then doing squats. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
dude your kidneys and liver is under enough strees while cycling. why make things worse for a headache, vomiting, embarrasing moments, and nothing that will contribute to your lifting goals? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1187 |
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Elite Bodybuilder
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First of all arnald drank erevy day. His post workout drink was a pitcher of beer for god sakes. I am not on a cycle. Bigwhitty i find this less hard to believe than your story about gaining 34lb in 8 weeks all natural after lifting weights for years and taking steroids. That to me sounds strange. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
You guys need stop to stop drinking on cycles and get some G baby. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 49 |
I have to agree with drinking isn't good at all. I also have read that it can decrease GH and testosterone production (as mentioned above), as well as nitrogen retention. Plus, how can you have a killer workout the next day when you have a hanghover? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 154 |
"Don't Drink and Juice" | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
YOU CAN DRINK ONLY IF ITS A JUICE PARTY LOL | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 49 |
Another thing is that while you are on roids, your liver is already under some level of stress. Why add to it with alcohol? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1000 |
i think that if you want to be a bodybuilder then bodybuild...if you want to drink and get fucked up all the time, then bodybuilding ain't for you. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 311 |
O.k... drinking is bad. Got it. One question though... how the hell am I supposed to go out to pimp on the ladies WITHOUT ALCOHOL!? I've never even fathomed such a concept! Seriously though, I'm serious about lifting and juicing, but I too like to go out some times with the boys and just hang out. Are there any other, less detrimental (to bodybuilding), non-addicting (e.g. NOT crack) substances with which one could still loosen up to talk to the ladies, but not hinder his lifting goals at the same time? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Ever tried E? I gained on AS whilst drinking excessively, I made strength gains along with a load of fat gain both from the drinking ( 10-15 pints of cider 3 times a week) and the munchies I got the day after. I am trying desperately to lose this weakest link in my life style - then I will be able to become one ripped MOFO. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Ever tried E? I gained on AS whilst drinking excessively, I made strength gains along with a load of fat gain both from the drinking ( 10-15 pints of cider 3 times a week) and the munchies I got the day after. I am trying desperately to lose this weakest link in my life style - then I will be able to become one ripped MOFO. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
Of course anything in excess is going to hurt you! Drink once in a blue mood, and for a good reason then you'll never second guess yourself. Try not to get fucked up for the hell of it. It's expensive and its just a waste of time! But I always contradict myself so who the hell am I to give adivce! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
what is G ? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
I hadnt had a drink is six months because of how health concious I was. I had to much to drink once on my cycle and got sick. I dropped 5lbs in 2 days of recovering and I felt and looked like crap. I was so upset with myself all that training and money on gear to waste. Bottom line is you need to be safe while on gear, thowing booz into the mix is not smart in my opinion. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
Why does he drink??? I used to drink to get socially lubricated and feel more comfortable talking to the ladies at the clubs. Now I stay keen on my game the few nights a month I do hit the night scene. Beautiful women are so much more receptive to a person that respects their body and can carry an intelligent conversation, than a sloppy drunk who gets rippeed up every weekend. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 53 |
Here's just to set the record straight. I'm actually amazed at the amount of people who haven't read "The Education of a Bodybuilder." Anyway, here's a passage from page 84. "We ate enormous meals. After each workout we would go to the beer hall and devour a whole chicken each and mucgs or beer. That was our dinner." Notice he said after EACH workout therefore saying that he drank while cycling, unless you believe that Arnold is all natural. Another passage: "We made it a regular thing[taking weights into the woods on weekends]. We brought girls out there to cook. We made a fire outdoors and tuned the whole thing into a little contest. We worked hard but we had a good time. After the muscle-shocking sessions we DRANK WINE AND BEER and(uh-oh) GOT DRUNK and carried on like the old-time weighty lifters back in the 1800s... We got off on it so much it became a weekly rouitine- eating fresh meat and drinking wine and exercising." Thank you! I think that settles it, now doesn't it? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 467 |
You quoted that from "Education of a Bodybuilder". Education! Obviously he wasn't very educated when he did all that, thus the title of the book! Hopefully now that the author has an education on bodybuilding, he would know better. Also if thats Arnold who stated that, beer halls are in Germany, not the US. That was obviously a statement from when he was working out in Munich Germany, before coming to the United States. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 323 |
All these different suggestions, E, Ghb, drink a lot of water if your going to booze simply overlook the obvious, any recreational drug, including booze will in some way inhibit your gains. Either immediately or long term. If you can�t control it, than abstain entirely. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 220 |
quote: Bullshit. A glass or 2 of wine or beer every DAY is good for your heart...better for your heart than abstaining a recent study says. I'd just watch it if I was dieting all strict. But, of course, drinking to get retarded and not knowing where your car is can kill ya. Been down that road too bro. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 53 |
Yes, that was when he was in Germany. Ok, what's the difference. Were you Mr. Unvierse at age 19? How big were your arms at 19? Did you have 20 in arms? Probably not. Hell, I'd bet that they're still not 20 in. Thus, it didn't really hurt him that much, now did it? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 574 |
I don't like to drink at all while on, but I will drink every other weekend or so while not on. All of my friends do it and I gotta have a life of some sort. I don't get fall down drunk.I drink a pint of pedialite before and after drinking, it greatly reduces dehydration. I workout m w f so it does not affect my training too badly. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
I did a cycle of Winny last summer. (I know it's a weak cycle) and I got drunk about once a week and got high about 4 times a week. Im not trying to be a pro body builder and although I do smoke weed and drink i am an athlete. I gained about 8 lbs of muscle from the Winny and got ALOT stonger. This summer im getting on EQ and I plan on drinking once a week again. I want to have fun this summer and get big, it worked last summer and im gona do it again. To each his own | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
MODERATION IS KEY! know your limit. Get a buzz and then stop! Don't get friggin alcohol poisoning and then say "oh don't drink on your cycles, I got ripped and lost thirty pounds and couldn't find my car in the morn!" Like come on guys! Think while you drink!!!! If ya can't pace yourself or have no self control then you should know better. Getting ripped all the time isn't good whether your jacked up or not! PERIOD. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 111 |
someone asked what "G" is. "G" is a drug. it is a liquid form. looks like water and has no odor. it is a free form amino acid. a couple of cc's of this shit and your fuc&ed up! i dont recomend it! Some people swear it is harmless but i have a friend that died from it. i have tried it and its like E but intensified by like 50%. kinda like being drunk but you can still think straight. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
Do some research. G is GHB. It was used as a supplement (increases growth hormone slighty) but now its considered a date rape drug. It's thick, salty, and does have an odour most of the time. Its nothing like E because its a downer (thus the girls pass out and don't remember shit) not an upper like E. Man some of you guys don't know shit! READ than ask questions. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 52 |
dont do any of that shit might as well get the best results you can out of it. and especially dont do "g" i just had a kid overdosing on it in my car and it was not fun | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1187 |
quote: First off that doesn't settle anything. Arnold was a genetic freak. How many everyday run of the mill people do you know that posses the genetics that Arnold does. Secondly, if Arnold were to pound nails into his scrotum would you run out to the local hardware store for a 2x4 and a claw hammer? Excuses like this are very weak to me. Can you honestly tell me that you think that drinking is good for you despite tons of medical research telling you it's not, just becasue Arnold says so. You got your head in the clouds man... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I have been on since about September and I drink 2-4 times a month. I drink different amounts, anywhere from 3-15 drinks but I would say I average 6 each outing. Anyways I just had my blood work done and I am in the best health of my life. My ldl is low, my Hdl is high, my liver values are not elevated, and my hematocrite, prostate and blood pressure are ideal. I think as long as you stay away from orals and alcohol you should be fine. I emphasize that health wise you might be ok but it will effect your gains just like everyone said. Since I am cutting I am going to have to cut back considerably on the amount I am drinking cause I have hit a plateau. If you are just cycling then you might want to consider holding off on drinking until after the cycle. giantset |
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posted April 19, 2001 02:16 AM
