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Originally posted by CutlerJr:
...i am bullshit...

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I have no further questions,your honor,lol....

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hey, what dosage do you take?

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Originally posted by pittbull2:
I know Ttokkyo is underfilling there EQ and that ticks me off. I think everyone should e-mail there site and tell them to quit or we will stop buying there products. Whats the difference underdosing or underfilling its the same thing and everyone was waiting for test results to see if there products were underdosed and Ttokkyo wanted to let everyone know that it was a rumor now no one is complaining about them underfilling. Everyone needs to e-mail them and complain.

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Underdosing & underfilling aren't the same thing. Ttokkyo's EQ is supposed to contain 2000mg of boldenone per vial. It's tested at 237mg/ml, so if it contained 10ml's you'd be getting 2370mg, if it contained 9ml's you'd be getting 2133mg, if it contained only 8ml's you'd still be getting 1896mg's of boldenone...Just an optimistic way to look at things- obviously you can't count on all ttokkyo products being overdosed by that much, but not all vials are underfilled either.

I made a post that looks to be deleted on how come you guys THINK your always getting shortchanged by EVERY Brand in the AS market. Its not a big deal - but relize that most of the time (at least with TT products) you are mistaken. Im still looking for that damn post which will explain why it was a long one so Id rather not retype it Im gettin tired of the deletions.

Also: if you guys were to stop buying ttokkyo for being "underfilled" then youd buy from denkall for more and still be "underfilled"??? or would you go to tornell or brovel and still be "underfilled"?? Think about it rationally if you were getting 7cc's (which your not your getting actual between 9.5 - 10.5 cc's) youd still be getting a better value. But that said, you should srcutinize your techniques for examining the amoutn you are actually getting - eye-balling isnt very accurate neither is taking out 1cc a week for 10 weeks.

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Most people think they get short changed by everything and every company in existence - this isn't a flame b/c I know people arent doing it on purpose or don't know better but lets think through the whole underfilling concept and take a look at it with an open mind.
I think they forget about the 1.5cc they lose from doing multiple injects well evry time you draw up you tip it needle up and flik the air out right? well if you push the liquid to the end of the pin then you inject...Now no one accounts for whats left in the pin itself or for the fact if the pin isnt screwed on all the way there is a space there that eats up the juice. Also alot of syringes don't account for all of the space from the bottom of the syringe to the tip. Very few syringes are real accurate in the first ml. so if you don't account for lets say 1/8 of a cc every inject and your doing EQ at 200mg per shot then 10 shots x 1/8 cc is 1 and 1/4 cc lost even at one 10th lost per shot it is still a cc. So moral of the story is unless you leave some air in there and inject so the air goes in last then you lost whats in the pin if you don't agree then just pull back after you inject and walla juice.

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I recently measured my four and came up with 10-10.25-9.5-9.75 I think they most use a machine that fills to a certian hight and the imperfections in the glass (wall and bottom thickness) affect there fills. But as you see overall It averages out.

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Originally posted by anabolic24/7:
A 10cc bottle should have 10cc's in it. No excuse's.
Unless you believe that a good reputation is not important for your company to succeed.
I dont want to see them screw around and mess up a good thing. IMO

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I agree, and I know if there was a problem with Ttokkyo deliberately underfilling their vials then there would be MANY people saying something- not these 1-2 complaints every few weeks or so. Ttokkyo manufactures 30-35,000+ vials of "gear" every month and the complaints about their products have been minimal.

I use alot of denkall products and they have never been to the mL they are supposed to, and i suck every last bit out.

Plan ahead and get a extra bottle of whatever just in case. It doesn't hurt anything if you don't use it, just one less bottle you have to buy for next time.

I was very dissapointed that my first Stanazolic only had 17 mL in it.