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 Please only self proclaimed Vets, Gurus, and mods. I need some help.
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 28 |
Hey buds. umm I think I may have screwed my self once agian. and Please on only responed to this if you know your shit. no cut and paste advice. I belive this is how I got in to this mess. ok ok here we go. I was planning on starting my 2nd cycle of Sus250 and TOK Deca. sus at 500mgs deca 300mgs a week for 8 weeks. I've been hearing all these guys getting GYNO from Deca!! WTF? this really pisses me off since it would seem that Novadex can not prevent Deca induced GYNO. so what the hell am I supposed to do? I was thinken EQ since it is simaler to Deca. But dose it cause the same kind of gyno as deca? the Progesterin (spelling)kind or not? if so should I get them shits?... or am I just worrieing to much? Guys Please give me your thougths. I'm in a delema. if I have to use EQ insted of Deca then I will have to find some bastured around here(my town)(Don't E mail me) to sell the deca to and wait another month go to get some EQ. Ijust want to do things right. Help a Bender bender     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2544 |
Add 15-20mg of winny ed. This wont give a huge anabolic effect, but will help with deca induced gyno. I would just wait and get eq. Save the deca for another cycle when you can add winny. ------------------ *** Dont email me asking for a source!!!!! *** "Catch a man a fish and he eats for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1235 |
What lawnsaver said.... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
so doese the EQ produse progetrin?(spelling)???????????? as deca dose???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.. this is the bread and butter of my huge ass post. bender [This message has been edited by Big Bender (edited April 19, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 205 |
why take our words for it? try searching the archives or the internet. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
thats now what I wanted to hear DNP. if you were one of the people I mentioned above to reply to this question it should just be a simpel answer... Bender. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
No, eq aromatizes into estrogen, not progesterone. In other words, the same sides as test. So if you are afraid of gyno, why add deca and eq, then you would be fighting gyno from all sides? But, 500mg deca/week doesn't sound too much, are you prone to gyno? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
I wish I could reach throught that computer and slap you Tx. I already answered them dam questions. and your posting answers to questions I haven't even asked. where is it that I said I was going to take deca at 500mgs?no where. and where did it say I was going to take deca and Eq together?nowhere. I said simply if deca sucks should I use EQ? IF YOU READ THE HEADING OF THE GOD DAM POST you would know not to respond to this post!!!!!!!!!! dam it dam it dam it........................................................................................................................................................ Read the whole post befor you answer this shit. this whole giveing short answers and knowing nothen about what your talken about question answering is what got me hear in the first place........... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
quote:
DID YOU NOTICE THE "YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OLD DISCLAIMER"???? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
SOMEBODY GET A MOD TO LOCK THIS CHUMPS THREAD... sorry everyone else. Its the Clomid talkin'. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1015 |
just dump the deca and add anadrol...hehehe | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
your question has been asked at least once a day. when someone is nice enough to actually take time to answer your uninformed questions shut up and listen. you sound like you're way too young to be using any AS. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
lol, yeah, i read the title, it said you needed help, and i agree, lol  Okay, you say you are contemplating sus/deca at 500/300 week, right? Well, my point was that I don't think you will see gyno from the deca at that amount unless you are naturally prone to gyno. However, if you want to ditch the deca and go with eq, that would be fine also. So, if you were taking eq/sus then you would only be fighting gyno on the estrogen front, and not estrogen and progesterone. And god forbid I ever respond to one of your wimpy, whiny ass pleas for help again. And, if your inability to read got you into this mess in the first place, how is it going to help you now? hth | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
tx, you've got a lot of patience... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
Much respect to TX. After all we say we about you texas boys...I bite my tongue. :-)
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
quote: yes I did. Bender. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 962 |
I just did 500/200 and had zero probs. I don't think the other 100 deca will do anything. It converts in excessive dosages. I don't think you're there. 500/500 MAYBE but not 500/300 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 115 |
quote: You better finish that cycle before you step little boy. First off practice your typing skills, as your slow-learner monkey hands haven't spelled a single fuck*ng word right during the entire "cry" you just had. I dont give a fuck if you're a newbie or not....this just means youve been an ignorant Sheet-stain for a long time. At least a newbie has an excuse. Next off...tell your boyfriends to limber up their hands.....for all the tities they'll be juggling over next few months. Isn't there a "shiny-object" for your slow-learning PS- Round up the station wagon and come pick up your mother......A little baking-soda will get that stain out.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 205 |
if you keep believing what everyone says you're gonna get yourself into a bigger mess than you're in now. tx has good advice, but do a SEARCH! you'll know for certain that way. btw, check you spelling and grammar kid. i can hardly understand what you're saying. is english your second language? | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1694 |
First of all, why the stupid title to the thread? -Just say "Question about gyno from deca". Secondly, I think I've posted close to 200 posts about Deca and gyno. So next time do a search. Deca(nandrolone Decanoate)(Ttokkyo Deca) will not give you gyno if used at dosages of 400mg/week or less.(Some individuals who are EXTREMELY sensitive to gyno might get it. But they are a very, very small minority.) If using between 400-800mg Deca/week, 50mg winstrol ED is recommended for progesterone antagonism. (Lawnsaver, 15-20mg winstrol ED will do nothing) If dosages of Deca are greater than 800mg/week, RU-486 is the only way to go, because winstrol is not strong enough to block enough progesterone for gyno not to occurr. Hope that helped.... Godspeed [This message has been edited by Fonz (edited April 18, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1358 |
I personally hate deca, but do what you want! Mass Monster | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
quote: This guy is pissing me off, I'm a newbee and I know enough not to fuck with people who are here to help eachother. I wish this guy was in my city talking shit like that he would be shot and dumped, so lets not hear anymore talk about reaching through any computer and slaping anyone. P.S thanks for help so far, you guys know your shit. Js ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 86 |
I love it. Now the guy from Winnipeg who can't even spell "newbie" is making threats. Shut the hell up already. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
short answer .... switch to equipoise. Look for the new ttokyo 200mg stuff it rocks! You want have a worry about gyno from the eq but you might from the sust. Just wait and see if your nipples itch, then take whatever you need. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2254 |
This may be the most pitiful thread I have ever seen here. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2544 |
quote: Fonz, I think for 300mg 15-20mg ed is fine. If you check a post by Huck Finn on Animal B cycle thread, Huck recomends 25mg ed for 100mg of anadrol. I'm not talking about 6-800mg of deca. So please dont tell me 15-20mg wont do anything, it will work perfect. ------------------ *** Dont email me asking for a source!!!!! *** "Catch a man a fish and he eats for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1694 |
quote: Very debatable. For 300mg Deca or less winny ia a waste as it is not needed. But, the strange thing about winstrol is that its potency differs from person to person. Godspeed | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2544 |
I made solid gain off 200mg of primo an 50mg of winny MWF. 20mg ed of winny will do more than you think and with 300mg of deca, which doesnt have a set amount to trigger progest aromatization, the winny will do the job it is asked. This guy is afraid of gyno. If he is only taking 300mg 20mg is perfect. Youre debating the fact that 300mg wont convert. It might not, but at that amount the 20mg of winny in the correct dosage. ------------------ *** Dont email me asking for a source!!!!! *** "Catch a man a fish and he eats for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 919 |
quote: AMEN, BROTHER!!! And support that with a HALLELUJAH!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
quote: So I take it I won't be getting your help on anything, don't mouth off to people that live so close, besides I was talking to the ass that started this topic. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 976 |
using a dosage of deca at 450 mg (ttokkyo) i was able to stop any gyno with an EOD dosage of 25mg of winny ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2544 |
No I think you would need 25mg ed min. Over 400mg is really when the coversiongets more pronouced. ------------------ *** Dont email me asking for a source!!!!! *** "Catch a man a fish and he eats for a day, but if you teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1694 |
I definately agree with Lawnsaver on this one. 25mg EOD is much too low for 450mg Deca/week. Godspeed | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
quote: Now why didn't you just say this the first time??? this is what I needed to know. if I dig throght the flaming I actuly found some good info. by the way I didn't know I need to write all my posts in essay form? but some people think their big men and have to point usless shit like that out. well Great for you. I really like this board for the info I get and you will notice I don't post a lot mainly becuse you have alot of smart mofos on this board and some smart ass mofos on this board. and yes I would love to reach through the computer and slap some people. wouldn't that just be Great. but it don't work so I don't do it any more. by the way I can back up the shit I talk. so when you see the (kid) in the gym that has a tattoo up and down his arm that says "Fear No Man" please step up and bring your attitude with you. Thanks Tx for the good info. and the thanks to all the other guys that didn't throw thier 2 cents about our little flame. also thanks to they guys that actuly tried to help.
[This message has been edited by Big Bender (edited April 19, 2001).] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
big b i just came off cycle of t-2,n-50 and eq altogether no gyno, gains were great although i do recommend getting hcg my testes are sucked up into my sac, but other than that i put on 18 lbs solid muscle try pyramid ing up then down. try using milk thistle to help keep liver & kidneys clean. also use b-12. renegade |
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