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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 01:49 PM

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I get the oil based idea, with the twice a week shot so then if the juice is water based you shoot it every day? Can any clarify on the shooting routine difference between general oils and water. Any advice would be awesome.


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aahepp

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posted April 17, 2001 01:52 PM

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If some one was to dissolve an estered test in water then you could inject that once a week or when ever. The only reason the water based are shot every day is because the substance they are carrying has a short life span. If they held a longer life span you wouldn't have to inject everyday.


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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 02:12 PM

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I realize this so does that mean that any water based juice is shot every day for the life of the cycle? NO WAY.

so to do suspension or winny you would need at least 3 bottles EACH that gets crazy expensive.


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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 02:33 PM

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BUMP! HELP!!!


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PhatD

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posted April 17, 2001 02:43 PM

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Yep, oil and water-based have nothing to do with frequency of injection, it all depends on the ester length, or lack thereof, of the parent hormone being injected. You can dissolve test suspension and winstrol in oil, and shoot them, but they still must be shot very frequently, for they have no ester and are therefor very fast-acting. You could also dissolve test cyp. in water, and only have to shoot once a week, b/c cyp. is a long-acting ester. Hope this helps some.

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GH Kid

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posted April 17, 2001 02:44 PM

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You could use winny or suspension every other day but that is the least I recommend.


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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 02:49 PM

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What happens if you start spreading it out more than that? Does it increase your chance for gyno? and does the day apart increase your chance for gyno more than the everyday?


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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 02:55 PM

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I will be taking susp, finabolan and eq.


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mor123

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posted April 17, 2001 06:04 PM

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BigQuadz

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posted April 17, 2001 06:26 PM

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This is the first time I have done winny, 50mg every day is bad ass, plus fina every other. good cycle

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delray

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posted April 17, 2001 06:37 PM

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Personally I'd save the fina until the end. Last cycle I switched from eq to fina when my eq ran out. The fina is a cutter. You'll lose all of your test and eq gaisn because fina cuts so hard.

That's just me though. 6'1", 210, fast metabolism.

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mor123

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posted April 18, 2001 11:34 AM

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Thanks guys. KEEP ER ROLLIN BUMP!


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mor123

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posted April 18, 2001 11:50 AM

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TOOBUKU

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posted April 18, 2001 11:54 AM

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YOU CAN ALSO DRINK THAT WINSTROL,OR 50MGS.EOD
SUSP.100 MGS. OR SO EOD INJECTION><
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cockdezl

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posted April 18, 2001 07:21 PM

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Steroids are "oil loving" and "water hating", so the preferential vehicle is some oil base. While they prefer oil over water this does not mean that they are very soluble in oils, therefore esters are added to some steroids to make them more "oil loving". The esters themselves impart the real half-life to the steroids, since they will regulate the release of the drug into the body, and out of the oil depot. The more "oil-loving" the ester the more it dissolves in the oil and the longer the drug half-life, because the drug now wants to stay in the oil depot (in your ass, shoulder, where-ever you injected it) and not in the more watery environment of the muscle/blood/body.

Injectable drugs that are not esterified, such as Suspension and Winstrol, are placed in water based vehicles to produce a crystalline suspension of drug. This crystalline suspension will act as a time release mechanism, since the crystals will slowly dissolve in the watery environment of the body. Pharmaceutical companies consciously chose not to make free-testosterone products in oil, because the testosterone would be rapidly released from ther oil depot and in turn quickly metabolised and excreted.


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assbeater

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posted April 18, 2001 10:19 PM

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good info guys,keep it rollin'


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