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 A SAFE CYCLER...would you have nolvadex on DECA CYCLE?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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in recent discussions i have come to head with a few on whether there is any need for nolvadex on a deca cycle. We all know that winny would be the go for progesterone related, but lets say u have never used any juice before and were planning a deca winny cycle, would you also have some nolvadex on hand for raised estrogen levels?? is raised estrogen going to be a problem on deca?? i believe yes but others disagree and i am worried about this misinformation that might be on the board right now, so lets clear it up for all. if yes or no please explain why.     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 27 |
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 755 |
any AS can potentially cause gyno, so having a little nolvadex won't hurt | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1024 |
bump, forsome technical answers on the way deca acts on test levels | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
To some extent, Nandrolone decanoate will convert to estrogen! Rather, it is instead converted to DHN (DiHydroNortestosterone) by 5-alpha-reductase in the body. This compound (DHN) is three times weaker (less active) in the scalp and the skin than DHT (DiHydroTestosterone) and is therefor "kinder" to the hairline and if you are prone to acne. In larger doses (above 400mg/week) it can convert to a compound which simulates the actions of progesterone - hence the progesterone-like properties - and can therefor attach to progesterone receptors in the breast tissue. Winstrol or ru-486 will combat this but Arimidex, Clomid or Nolvadex will do NOTHING to these specific progesterone receptors. Crom | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1024 |
thanks ccram, i do believe that it can turn to estrogen. | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1670 |
quote: Both myself and Sew have told you that it is MOLECULARLY IMPOSSIBLE for Nor-estrogen to convert to estrogen. Nor-estrogen reacts with the progesterone receptor not the estrogen receptor. The reason why some people use novaldex on a deca-cycle to prevent gyno is that novaldex has some very,very weak progesterone antagonizing properties. Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1024 |
i know your thoughts on this fonz but as i said i have been told differently from a few people i respect on this board, where the fuck has everyone gone DECAMAN, ehere are you?? i think this board is starting to lose respect with a lot of the older members. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1670 |
quote: He's at AF. www.anabolicfitness.infopop.net Can you say advertising.........LOL Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1024 |
thanks fonz |
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posted April 16, 2001 11:52 AM