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 what steriods = explosive POWER
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Novice 
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what is the best thing to take to create overall explosive power? im talking how to take advantage of "fast twitch" muscle fibers. i am a "thrower" and need to be more EXPLOSIVE with my whole body. possibly winstrol??? any help would be much appreciated. thanks.     | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Most steroids contribute to explosive power. From experience, these steroids most contribute to "explosive power": Finaplix or Winstrol. When I was on Finaplix, I could clean 315 for 5 reps. I also achieved a 35 vertical leap. I hope others on this board can contribute to this discussion. Although, I have never taken this anabolic, I read that the Russian throwers smashed all sorts of throwing records by taking this "Breakfast of Champions"; it's call D-BOL. Many explosive athletes swear by this. I just read your location. You live in Indiana PA? I lived in Indiana for six months. I went to Indiana HS. Since I was from a big city, I couldn't cope with the cultural adjustment by moving to Indiana, PA. So I left. I was there in 86. I played football for Coach Bernie MacQuown. Later. [This message has been edited by ruffy1 (edited April 16, 2001).] [This message has been edited by ruffy1 (edited April 16, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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winstrol is one of the best but you have to take high dosages for the great strength gains-this can be expensive and stressful on your liver-halotestin is also supposed to be great-am about to try it for the first time starting May 1st. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Indiana PA, eh? I wonder if I saw you in Field House lately...or do you train in Mad Dog? Hook me up bro..hehe. Damn, this world is so small...I want another. [This message has been edited by Kodesh (edited April 16, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 69 |
Steroids won't help your explosive power. You'll feel like you have more explosive power when you were cleaning 315 from the hang and now you're cleaning 345, then you go back to 315 and it feels like nothing. Plyos (Don Chu's book) and doing a shitload of back-overheads with the shot will help your explosive power. Getting a huge push-press and jerks will make that shot feel like it's being shot out of a cannon when it comes off your neck. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: WRONG! exact OPPOSITE, no flame. just letting you know from EXPERIENCE. i'd say anadrol or Equipoise, ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
quote: Ok. I wish that were the case. Honest question: Can you cite any scientific evidence to suggest that steroids will make your nervous system fire more efficiently? Here's a real life scenario: Let's say I'm throwing 50', push pressing 275 and weigh 280. I start banging some gear, get my push press up to 295, and lose 10 lbs down to 270. My shot moves up to 53'. Is this because I'm more explosive, or because my strength to weight ratio went up and I can spin more quickly because I lost 10 lbs? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 50 |
Explosive training = explosive power. V3 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 514 |
I think the extra mass would help you shot put further all things equal. Simple conservation of momentum Physics 101. Your extra mass causes the shot to move forward more and your upper body to move backward less. Body mass tends to be worse for quickness than maximum speed also. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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quote: Geez, I forgot to mention what I now take for granted. You are absolutely right. Finish every movement with acceleration, never finish any pull or squat flat-footed, jump squats, plyos, plyos, plyos. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
HALOTESTIN. period. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1455 |
Explosive power= Anadrol-50 ------------------ BROS BEFORE HO'S | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
When I recommended the aforementioned steroids, I assumed that the WayCool was following a plyometric regimen. After all he is a thrower! D-BOL is known for exciting the fast twitch muscle fibers. As far as steroids not contributing to explosive power is concerned, I have to respectfully disagree. Plyometrics can only take an athlete so far. Case in point, Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson could have performed plyometrics from Toronto to Mississippi and he still would not have ran a mind-boggling 9.79 for 100m. Winstrol V, contributed to his explosive power (which was evident from his explosion out of the blocks); That's were he won the race, out of the blocks! As a athlete who has done plyometrics without juice and while on juice, I must say that gear does contribute to explosive power. Cordially | ||
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Cool Novice
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NYStrip - are you a throwback from 1980's AMA? Saying that steroids don't help explosive strength is equivelent (exactly, per definition) to saying they don't help gain muscle. And even the AMA has backed off on that idiotic proposition. Fact is that gaining explosive strength is purely a function of training style (i.e. rep-range, tempos, etc..) and muscle mass. Steroids definitely help with #2. I'd say that the _type_ of steroid is relatively obvious in that the mosre strength you gain the better. In other words, juice like of course pure T, D-bol, Anadrol, Tren, etc... | ||
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Cool Novice
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look, I used to Power Lift. now, i strive for the muscular, lean but large look.....anyway, if you can get real HALO, try it my man, A50 aint bad either, but when I was competing, nothing beat HALO for explosive immediate results. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 69 |
quote: Then show me the study. I'm here to learn. Steroids have nothing to do with how quickly your muscles go from the relaxed state to the contracted state. That's a nervous function. Don't confuse applied force (depends on several factors) with explosion (purely a nervous function). | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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who the hell needs scientific evidence!? have you even used anadrol at one time or another? notice what i put in my post "FROM EXPERIENCE" i dont need any evidence. it is self explanatory. when experiencing the great feeling of steroids kicking your ass, no need to explain to someone else how it is scientificly increasing aggression. Mike001- ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Both schools of thought are right. When we speak of a person's explosive attribute, we must take into consideration what physiologists call a "motor unit." In lay-man terms a motor unit is a motor neuron and the muscle fibers that the motor neuron controls. The motor neuron sends a command to the muscle fiber(s) to perform certain functions--contract or explode. I believe NewYork's assertion holds here. Steroids have nothing to do with the motor neuron's command to the muscle fiber to contract/explode. However, I am sure there are varying degrees to which different muscle fibers explode. I would venture that a muscle fiber's degree of contraction is dependent upon the command from the motor neuron and its strength attribute--the stronger the fiber, the greater the ability to contract/explode. This is where steroids come into play. Steroids strengthen muscles fibers, hence the muscle fiber's ability to contract/explode increases. Cordially [This message has been edited by ruffy1 (edited April 16, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
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You can find more information on motor units by typing "motor unit" into any search engine. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
cheque drops | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
I read that cheque drops can only be taken for a couple of weeks. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Steroids + Hardwork = Power, and more Power steroids will help you achieve your goals faster if you are already training hard. Whether it be to get bigger, leaner, or throw a shot futher. AS will help you do it bigger, faster, or stronger. I speak from personal experiences. I am 100% positive that there are many other individuals that will back me up with their own experiences. Scientific studies don't mean anything to me. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 35 |
adrogenic and water retention equals strength gain as far I've read and experienced. Thus fina, anadrol,dbol, even friggin test ethanate, the list goes on. Find what works best for you! | ||
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Cool Novice
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I have to go with fina, and halo. If you start these make sure you stretch everyday and warm up. I think this is very important. With the added strength, you will need to make sure everything else is in check. Or you will hurt yourself. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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I don't have any studies and don't really need them, but one of the so-called non-AR mediated effects of steroids may be enhanced neuro-muscular coordination. I tend to believe it myself, from seeing what Tren can do for you. Do a test. Take 50mg of D-bol, 50mg Anadrol, 200mg Tren Acetate, and 200mg Test Suspension for even just a few days and I bet your strength _and_ explosive power would fucking skyrocket. | ||
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Guru     
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Oxandrolone (AKA anavar, oxandrin) It increases phosphocreatine synthesis which increases the speed at which creatine is processed. Combine this with creatine and you've got power! ------------------
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Novice
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Let's kill the science thing: any credible research ever done on this subject would obviously be in the real of elite/olympic athletics - they get some of the best funding from foreign countries. Needless to say, any country really delving into this would never publish it or admit to it. Dianabol, Halotestin, Test, Fina, Anadrol, Winstrol. Winstrol should be in a stack or tapered before comp - I believe 8-10 days on low dose orals before it becomes untestable. |
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posted April 15, 2001 11:59 PM
