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Originally posted by vdlrosa:
Pump n Pose/ Synathol

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YOU MEAN SYNTHOL?

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d*mn...i had another question too, but just forgot it. it'll come to me.

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Originally posted by big toes:
iron slinger- a few questions for ya!
I just took my first synthol injections last 2 days back. the biceps were not a problem. however, when i injected the triceps, there was massive bleeding. at first i wasnt worried because i figured i just went through the vein, but then large swelling occurred (which actually went away after a few hours). could the swelling have occurred because i injected the synthol too quickly? i used a slow injection for the biceps, but a quick one for the tricep. 2nd question. how do you boil & for how long? do you just stick the PNP in a bowl of water & boil on high for about 15 minutes?

d*mn...i had another question too, but just forgot it. it'll come to me.

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DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BLEEDING, BUT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WENT THROUGH A VEIN

BOIL THE VIAL BY PLACING IT IN A POT OF BOILING WATER AND VENTING IT. IF IT HAS A RUBBER TOP, PUT A HYPO THROUGH IT TO VENT

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A few more questions if you dont mind:

First question-How long should you boil the PNP? 15-20 min?
2nd Question- I think I may have contracted a virus from the PNP. I dont feel ill (feel pretty good, actually). However, my stools are liquidified & the color is identical to the PNP. Or does that happen to everyone who begins to use synthol?

The newest interest in the bodybuilding drug community is Synthoid. It is better known here in America as "Pump 'n Pose". I will try and give the clearest description on its contents, use and abuse that I can. Once again, we cannot rely on the snobby assed "gurus" from the muscle mags. They are giving it a bad rap and telling you of all the dangers of Synthoid use and they downplay the benefits.
I took the liberty in calling GenaPharm who is the only company in which you can order legit Pump n' Pose from here in the states.

The president of GenaPharm, Haddi Ghandour was very gracious in spending a lot of time with me and answering my many questions. So here are the facts on Synthoid/Pump 'n Pose.

If one was to purchase the legit product overseas, there product label would look like this:

SYNTHOL 877/3

Synthetic Size Booster

(translated from the German)

Ingredients:

Synthetic Intramuscular Fatty Acids........85%

Lidocaine Hydrocloride...........................7.5%

Benzyl Alcohol......................................7.5%

Shake before using

Store in a cool and dry place

Protect from direct sunlight

X3 Specialty Labs

Hamburg / Germany

Contained in a brown glass, multi-use vial is approximately 100cc of the oil. The oil is clear, light textured and has a distinctive benzyl alcohol smell. If you see a 50cc version, IT IS FAKE!! Also, any vial that are manufactured in Europe, will have a gold colored metal cap. The American or any fakes are silver colored. Both Synthol and Pump 'n Pose will have gold caps.

To import this product legally in the U.S., X3 Specialty Labs created another bottle. This does not have a label. But again, a multi-use, brown colored vial is used. Also, it will contain 100cc of the oil. It has white lettering burned in the glass. The letters will not rub off with a fingernail. They read like this:

Pump 'n Pose

Posing Ol

Nur zur auBeren Anwendung

GleichmaBig auf dem Korper

verteilen.

Kuhl und trocken lagern

Responsible bodybuilders use Synthol to add size to small bellied muscles such as the biceps, triceps, deltoids, and calves. A lot of older steroid users used to use Esiclene. Esiclene would add a half inch to any bodypart it was injected in. Esiclene caused an inflammation of the muscle thus causing it to swell. This was only temporary and the inflammation would go away after a couple of days. What Synthol can do is add up to 2 inches to a body part. And if used correctly, the results can stay up to at least six months.

How does Synthol actually work?

Well when Synthol is injected in the body, the oil is supposed to be resistant to mobilization. Once this happens, collegen is formed around the bubble of oil and it encapsulates. The encapusulated collegen keeps the bubble of oil in place thus pushes up the muscle to make it appear bigger from the outside. Some have written that it is the oil that encapsulates. It is not, it is the collegen from your body.

Dan Duchaine seems to be the only guru that has paid some attention to Synthol. He had a sample tested using the HPLC method and this is what he says Synthol is made of:

C8 (caproic acid) 45.3%

C10 (caprylic acid) 43.4%

C18:2 (linoleic acid) 6.2%

Others 5.1%

He estimates that the "Other" fatty acid is C12. Basically it shows as Medium Chain Triglyceride, mostly C8 and C10. Keep in mind that whe a HPLC lab test is perfomed on a solution, it should show up as a food like substance. So that is why it may be coming up MCT oil. Dan believes strongly that this is MCT oil because of a producer of MCT's in Germany is a company called Dynament Nobel. GenaPharm claims that the oil is not MCT but a synthetic fat. The one common thing that all vials of Synthol has is a white powdery sediment on the bottom. This may be the lidocaine hydrocloride.

Synthol has actually been in existance for a little over 3 years. Some of your famous bodybuilders are using it. One that is very blatent is the Canadian Collossus - Greg Kovacs. Earlier this year, at the Night of Champions, Kovacs has misused the Synthol and injected way too much in his rear delts. If you can see pics, take a look and you will see what I mean. There was rumours that Flex Wheeler has used it in his calves. He has been accused of using implants or other help. I have heard from a reliable source that he does use Synthol in his calves.

So the consensus is that when a bodybuilder is using Synthol, he is deemed as a "cheater". Usually the people screaming these accusations are on more steroids than I am. So as the old saying goes, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Women get breast implants all the time, I never look at them and say "she's cheating!" So you have to make up your own minds.

When talking to Haddi, I asked how does one use Synthol correctly? This is what I was told. You wont get instructions with the Synthol, and most of the advice that goes around your local gyms is usually ignorant advice from individuals that dont want to sound stupid. I got this advice on how to use this correctly straight from the distributor.

Since most people have trouble peaking their biceps, this is the most common bodypart that Synthol is injected into. Here are the steps.

Materials you need.

Isopropyl Alcohol

Cotton balls

Injection Needle 1 - 1/2 in. 22-26 guage, at least a 1cc syringe

Flair felt tip pen or equivalent

Pump 'n Pose

Preferably a trusted friend and a full length mirror.

Small Band aids

1. In front of the mirror, perform a single bicep pose. You have to determine where the bicep will peak. Once you have found that area, using your free arm and hand. Use the Flair felt tip and make a mark on top of your bicep. This mark will be the insertion point for the injection.

2. Do the same for the other bicep.

3. Once both biceps are marked with the ideal spot for you peak. Shake the bottle of Pump 'n Pose up thoroughly and fill your syringe up with 2 ccs of Pump 'n Pose oil.

4. Using correct hygiene, swab the area for injection with a alcohol soaked cotton ball.

5. Relax you bicep and point the needle in on a 90 degree angle. Insert the needle through the subcaneous layer and push gently and steadily through the muscle. You must get deep into the bicep (basically under the muscle belly) Once you have the desired depth, pull the stopper up slightly to see if the syringe fills with blood. THIS IS IMPORTANT! If it does pull out and try another spot. If it doesnt, then slowly push the stopper until only 1cc is injected under the muscle belly.

6. Do the same for the other bicep.

7. After injection, reswab the injection site with an alcohol soaked cottonball. Massage the area very lightly. Do not put too much pressure. For best results try not to massage at all.

8. Use bandaids to cover injection wounds if necessary.

You are done the injections. After a half hour after the injections, take a light weight dumbell, or barbell and use a weight that will allow you to do 12 -15 reps. Make the reps slow, remembering to squeeze the heads of the biceps after each lift. Remember to keep the weight light. We are only trying to get a good pump.

Repeat this every other day until you get the results you are wanting. Once you have the results you want, then an injection once a month will keep your size for you.

Hints:

1. Do not inject more than 1cc at a time! Injecting more than 1cc will not get you faster quality results. Usually the results are odd looking shapes from your muscles.

2. Since injecting into the bicep can be painful, try using a smaller guage needles if you can. The oil is harder to force out of some, but it wont leave a big hole in your arm.

3. The initial injection is painful, use an ice pack for about 10 -15 minutes to try and numb the pain. It is effective in masking the pain. The day after is when you will feel the bigger pain. It is because of the acids in the oil. It is not unbearable. Use asperin if needed.

4. Try to use a trusted friend, wife, girlfriend, nurse or doctor to help you if at all possible

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HERE IS SOME MORE HELPFUL INFO I RECEIVED VIA EMAIL:

BIG TOES- "i've read that the injection should go through
> the belly of the muscle, but how do you know when
> you hit the belly? Would 1 inch be far enough? is
> it possible to penetrate too deeply? or is it
> strictly dependent on how big your arm is?
> 5. what about for triceps? do most people inject in
> the bottom part of tricep? or outer head?
> 6. i've read that you should start with 1 ml for the
> first 1 or 2 weeks. if i inject in both the bicep
> and tricep, would that be 1/2 cc in each muscle? or
> 1 cc in each?

RESPONDER- "Most guys "APPLY" the posing oil with a 25-27g needle,
5/8 to 1 inch in. Yes you can go too far in. There is
a learning curve associated with synthol, and it's
something every has to learn on their own since the
all have different muscle shapes.

It would be 1 cc each, and go the the outer head of
the tri. The inner head is PACKED with nerves and
blood vessels, and could be very painful if done
incorrectly.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!