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 This is the cause of progesterone(deca) and post cycle induced depression...
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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an excess of progesterone (such as that from deca) and cortisolallows candida(the bad bacteria that lives in your gut) to thrive . It overwhelms the good bacteria , and the candida roots grow into the intestinal wall creating "leaky gut syndrome". Which allows the candida and all other toxins in your stomach direct access to the bloodstream . Once in your blood stream these toxins can manifest themselves in a host of different symptoms including depression . This would explain why depression persists for months after stopping AS. The symptoms will only disappear once the candida is brought under control. Candida also thrives when excess cortisol is present such as post cycle    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
bump | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 23 |
First time I've ever heard this one. Years ago when I was on the 'juice cycles' I did experience the depression thing. I always figured it was the low testosterone thing from the balls shutting down temporarily during the cycle. I was using deca/anavar/dbol stacks. To compensate on following cycles I started taking weekly injections of HCG 2 weeks before the end of the cycle and continued it 2 weeks after the end. I had no further problems. I figure that depression is generally a 'female problem'. Depression is usually associated with lots of crying. Crying is an emotional thing and females seem to be more emotional than men. Therefore if you're depressed/crying/emotional your estrogen/progesterone levels are low in comparison to your testosterone levels. Damn, I hope I don't get flamed by the women over this theory. Nothing personal. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
bump - any more thoughts | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 789 |
You don't even have to make it that complicated. Natural test levels are real low post cycle, and take as long as 18 mths. to recover, depending on age and length of cycle. Depression is the #1 symptom of sub-normal T-levels. Add in loss of some of the new strength and size, and diminished sex drive, and you'll damn sure be depressed. My solution? Stay on.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 698 |
That�s the price you have to pay. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 701 |
I'm in one of those depressed times myself and I'm usually strong & disciplined but I'm having a hard time being consistant in my training and this is not like me. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
That's why I feel safer doing small cycles for no more than 8 weeks at a time, then waiting another 8-10 weeks before another one. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 413 |
Wow, that is the first time that I have ever heard that on this board and it is totally correct. Well kinda. Anabolic steriods and antobiotics are the main causes of Candida overgrowth in the small intestine. This can cause depression, anxiety, fatigue, bloating, etc. It may or may not happen, it all depends on the person. Usually it will, so you can take a few things while on and after your cycle to prevent this. While on the cycle, take Probiotics, digestive enzymes, odorless garlic, Psylluim husk, a good multi-vit, flax oil, glutamine, grapefruit seed extract and pathetine. Immediately after the cycle, for one month take Bentonite, Psylluim husk, caprilyic acid, garlic, probotics, enzymes, grapefruit seed extract, glutamine, kolorex, ginger, pathetine, flax, multi-vit and tyrosine. This will help eliminate Candida overgrowth in your system. Probably cost about 100 for the 1 months supply. If you have only done one cycle, you probably may not need to do this, but if you have done more, I would strongly recommend it. Test levels have something to do with it too, but that can pretty much be controlled by other supplements as well. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 444 |
Maybe eating yogurt would help, as the acidopholus in it helps support your intensines good bacteria. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 959 |
I'd have to call a BS on this one guys... BTW, Candida isn't even a bacteria.
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 413 |
Nope not BS. I can happen, and it does in a lot of people. It can cause depression, etc. He didn't explain it to well, but just go to any Candida site and it will explain it to you. I researched this topic in college for ever and most of the Candida info on the net is pretty good. So read up. I always cleans my body before and after I cycle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 959 |
quote: Ok, Andy, I'm calling you out on that. Prove it. -Stew | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 413 |
http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
"an excess of progesterone (such as that from deca)" I'm confused here. I always thought progesterone was one of the female hormones. Are you talking about decadurabolin? Always thought it was a highly anabolic hormone. Same actions as testosterones but without all the androgenic effects. It's probably the most symptom free steroid I ever used, with the exception of shutting down testosterone production. Or are you saying that because the testosterone is low the progesterone has a greater negative effect on the body. Candida never bothered me, but I'm not discounting that in some individuals it could. By the way I couldn't get that info site to open up. Site must be down. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
Bump Badass That is what I do too, only 8 week cycles and then off for about 8 weeks much safer and you dont have to worry about sides... Gear | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 120 |
Bump...interesting theory |
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posted April 14, 2001 07:29 AM