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babyfaced monster

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posted April 13, 2001 06:45 PM

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i know you can get prog gyno from fina and deca but what other juices cause prog gyno?


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Big Johnson

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posted April 13, 2001 06:50 PM

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ALMOST ALL CAN CAUSE GYNO, EITHER BY PROGESTERONE SIMULATION OR BY AROMATIZATION. THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF WHICH DOESN'T IS ANAVAR BECAUSE IT IS DOES NOT AROMATIZE AND DOES NOT SIMULATE PROGESTERONE.

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ajc

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posted April 13, 2001 06:51 PM

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Anadrol (as far as I know)


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RDV

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posted April 13, 2001 06:56 PM

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Progesterone is basically another form of estrogen right. So are anti's like Nolvadex still effective against progesterone induced gyno??? I have heard of Fina causing progesterone induced gyno although it does not aromatize to estrogen.


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JohnnyO

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posted April 13, 2001 07:00 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by RDV:
Progesterone is basically another form of estrogen right. So are anti's like Nolvadex still effective against progesterone induced gyno??? I have heard of Fina causing progesterone induced gyno although it does not aromatize to estrogen.

Progesterone is another female hormone, definatly not another form of estrogen .. I would want to try some ru486 as an anti progesterone, but it's expensive and hard to get.


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Slopain

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posted April 13, 2001 07:00 PM

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RDV: No. They are two entirely different 'gens hehe - Treat Estro with arimidex/Nolva/proviron treat Prog with Winny/RU486

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Hoss

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posted April 13, 2001 07:00 PM

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Only RU486, and winny can prevent progesterone induced gyno...as far as I know.

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BOXER10

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posted April 13, 2001 10:38 PM

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if you took winny by itself could it still aromatize causing gyno. In other words would it be a good idea to have nolvadex on hand even though you are just using winny.

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Zeke_B

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posted April 13, 2001 11:02 PM

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Progest gyno is caused by Deca or some
other progesterone agonist attaching to
the progesterone receptor. This is not
due to aromatization. The Deca is directly
attaching to the receptor and activating
it. The only thing that will help are
progesterone receptor antagonists such as
RU-486 and Winny.


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