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Suspension

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posted April 13, 2001 06:41 PM

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After I added the pellets to the 'magic solution', i allowed the mixture to settle overnite. Well, today, after crushing and heating the pellets, they disolved, but there is a layer of white pellets on the bottom of the vial. is it ok to add the oil, or do i need to let them sit longer?


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posted April 13, 2001 07:12 PM

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bump


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bigkraut

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posted April 13, 2001 09:27 PM

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Man, I don't know if you're joking or not, but if you're serious, you probably need to start over. You are supposed to add the oil to the dissolving liquid/pellet combo within an hour. If you dont, oxidation can occur and you need to do the coffee filter step. No problem there, what may be a problem is you heated it without the protection of the oil. Tren has a rather low melting point out of oil and you have probably killed the hormone. I wouldn't mess with it now. Get another kit and cart of fina and get some detailed instructions before you mix up the batch. Don't sweat it, it's cheap.


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DeadliftEuphoria

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posted April 13, 2001 11:49 PM

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BigKraut is half right...you are supposed to add the oil w/i one hour. However, you aren't fucked, all is not lost, you'll just have to do some additional filtering and shit. Mosey your ass over to Mr. H's site https://www.elitefitness.com/members/finaplix/
and click on make fina, then click on detailed instructions w/ faq from animal...scroll down to sterile kit if you did get your kit from Mr A (if not ignore my entire post).

I made the exact opposite mistake last night (my 1st time too) I put the oil in immediately after I put the pellets in the magic vial...today I've been spending a lot of time over the stove trying to get the shit to go into solution...its happening slowly but oh well...live and learn.


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bigkraut

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posted April 14, 2001 01:40 AM

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Bro, I got to disagree with you. I've made a load of the stuff and have studied it pretty throughly. If he hadn't heated it, you would be right. He would only need to take the additional filtering step, which is what I said. The main problem that I see is that he heated it without the protection of the oil. In oil, trens melting point is about 300 degrees F. Without oil, it is less than 200 degrees. So it sounds like he could have very well destroyed the active hormone. If that's the case it would be pointless to inject it. Harmless but pointless.


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dickie

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posted April 14, 2001 07:41 AM

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I dissagree kraut, You are told that you need to use heat sometimes to excell the breakdown process of the pellets in the magic solution, then apon the pelets breaking down within the hour you are to then add the oil!! however it is impotant when heating the solution to use boiling water as your heating source so that you don't burn the solution.


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marky

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posted April 14, 2001 09:35 AM

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You can heat the bottle of dissolving pellots in a bowl under running hot tap water which is never at boiling temp. Did the comp t-h the other day. The filtered product was a cloudy yellow. Is this normal
with the new formula. In the past I'd done only finaplix and the solute was clear amber yellow.


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blaster220

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posted April 14, 2001 11:43 AM

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jeez, i hope it's not that picky... i'm going to read, read, read when I start up my batch!

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bigkraut

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posted April 14, 2001 12:45 PM

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You're going to have to refer me to the set of instructions that state you may need to heat the pellets in the dissolving liquid before adding the oil. I've never seen them. The instructions I have, which can be accessed from this site, state very clearly that the heating takes place AFTER the oil has been added. The oil protects the tren from the potential damage of the heat. The instructions are clear on the point that the oil, dissolving liquid/pellet mixture are heated and while the heating is taking place, the solution is gently swirled to further aid the dissolving process. This step allows the pellets to completely dissolve and pulls the fillers and what have you to the bottom of the vial. You can check it out yourself. So if this fellow got the stuff too hot out of the oil, he could have destroyed the tren. With that as a possibility, why risk injecting a worthless solution. It would be more prudent to do it again and know all is well with the mixture.


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posted April 14, 2001 01:16 PM

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When I heated the solution, I never went close to boiling point, just in hot water..


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posted April 14, 2001 01:17 PM

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i boiled it once (after I added the oil) and everything is ok now. Thanks guys!


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bigkraut

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posted April 14, 2001 04:35 PM

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Glad to have been of assistance.


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