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CerealKiller

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posted April 13, 2001 10:49 AM

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I've been reading a lot of your posts and agree with the "more is not always better" theory......so I was just wondering if you should start all over again what would be you first cycle?


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The cycle I would recommend for a newbie would be an EQ and d-bol

dbol****EQ
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted April 13, 2001 11:30 AM

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WHAT?!?NO DECA?!?That's an excellent first cycle 2thick,couldn't agree more(except I'd up the dosage just a tad,but I digress)...


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yiyangzhi

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posted April 13, 2001 11:31 AM

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2Thick, what is the reason behind tapering dbol?


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Slopain

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Thats not the real 2Thick.. I dont see deca and EQ? Well what kind of EQ then?

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quote:
Originally posted by yiyangzhi:
2Thick, what is the reason behind tapering dbol?


I like to taper the dbol because the high dosages are not necessary for growth. They also prevent a huge loss of water when the dbol is discontinued (especially when using something that doesn't hold much water).


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quote:
Originally posted by Slopain:
Thats not the real 2Thick.. I dont see deca and EQ? Well what kind of EQ then?




Ahh...I mean...oh...It's the non-mex EQ...LOL


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one day my friend.. one day..

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Ahh...I mean...oh...It's the non-mex EQ...LOL

Doesn't that only leave us with like two choices?

Fort Dodge and Fort Dodge...Right?

I never thought about it before. Is there another brand of non-mex EQ?


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posted April 13, 2001 04:08 PM

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Bump for my friend to see


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Damian Borleone

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Doesn't that only leave us with like two choices?

Fort Dodge and Fort Dodge...Right?

I never thought about it before. Is there another brand of non-mex EQ?


I don't have my copy of WAR thanks to Simi PD , but if I remember correctly isn't there a veterinary EQ available in Germany? Maybe not. I know Australia and Colombia manufacture EQ but I'm not sure about the socioeconomic status of these two countries (I'm sure most people now know, the socioeconomic status of a country is the single most important factor in determining if you should use a particular steroid or not). Denkall pretends to be an Australian company so I'd say their EQ is a little better than your typical mexican counterpart. But why would anybody want to use EQ? Don't racehorses use that stuff? I mean, who wants to be super-lean and vascular like a racehorse?



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BOXER10

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posted April 13, 2001 06:07 PM

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whats up 2thick and huck and slopian

this is the first time where i have read about a suggestion for a first cycle when knowlegeable bro's don't say take 500 mgs of test satcked with something else. Can you bro's explain why you would pick dboll and not test for the first cycle. Also would you eliminate all bloating with the dboll because the dosages are low and that you only run it for 4 weeks. Whatever i do on my first cycle Im going to play it safe and get some nolvadex. Do you think i would need it for this cycle.

Thanks 2 thick huck slopian


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posted April 13, 2001 10:35 PM

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Well the reason that this particular combo(d-bol/eq) works so well together is that they each work through seperate mechanisms from one another,and are highly synergistic together.Not to mention,eq is very benign,so side effects would be minimal,and if any occurred they would most likely be through the d-bol route,which you could just discontinue and it would clear your system rapidly.This really was a well thought out first cycle on the part of 2thick.Great combo...


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Thanks for the info! I was wondering if primo would be a good alternative if eq was not accessible?


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blaster220

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posted April 14, 2001 11:46 AM

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2Thick's cycles always look good


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-2Thick,

Would anavar be a viable substiute for EQ in your newbie cycle, or would the dbol/anavar stack be too hard on the liver ?


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solidspine

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posted April 14, 2001 01:18 PM

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15 weeks

week 1-12 300mg deca
week 1-4 240mg sten
week 6-11 500mg sus
week 4-9 500mg primoteston
week 13-15 HCG
Nolvadex ED


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-2Thick,

Would anavar be a viable substiute for EQ in your newbie cycle, or would the dbol/anavar stack be too hard on the liver ?


Not really because Anavar has absolutely no water retention and gives more of a stength gain than a mass gain. That stack would probably not be a good idea since they do not compliment each other.


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quote:
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Thanks for the info! I was wondering if primo would be a good alternative if eq was not accessible?

It could work well but you will probably see slightly less water retention and slightly less mass gains.


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Cuts

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I've done two not-to-well-planned-out-or-executed Deca & Winny cycles. If I took a year off from roids (but kept training hard and eating right), would this be an o.k. 3rd cycle too? Also, how much of the gains from a cycle like this would one be able to keep? Thanks 2Thick!

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RacerX

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posted April 14, 2001 05:13 PM

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Thanks, for the info 2Thick!!


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fczeuner

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Thanks for the advise 2Thick. Because of avalibility I chose d-bol and Sust250. I am going to be consevative on my first cycle, I'm only doing 250mg for 10wks and will probably taper the d-bol as you recommend.

Thanks again everyone


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posted April 15, 2001 10:10 AM

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