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mor123

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posted April 13, 2001 03:53 AM

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Have any of you heard of GHB? And if it helps growth hormone production.


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oldbiker

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posted April 13, 2001 04:30 AM

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I don't know about it myself, but I was on another BB (FOS, lame site) earlier and they talked about GHB as an addictive type drug not a Growth hormone. All those people are interisted in is pain killers.

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mor123

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posted April 13, 2001 04:33 AM

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No it is not a growth hormone itself. I heard you can party on it or take for sleep to get a deeper sleep and thus achieve a naturally higher growth hormone level.


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mor123

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posted April 13, 2001 12:17 PM

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bumpity bump!


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lawnsaver

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posted April 13, 2001 12:48 PM

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Ghb doesnt cause muscle growth. It aids in recovery by allowing you to reach deep sleep faster. These stages of sleep are where growth and repair happen. It will allow you to repair with a 4 hr sleep the same way you would repair with a regular 8 hr sleep.

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4mike

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posted April 13, 2001 09:26 PM

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If you used the stuff for say 3 weeks a few times a day would you experience withdrawl symptoms when you stopped?? Thanks


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spmffl

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posted April 13, 2001 09:51 PM

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dont use it!!! if u are planing to used ia few times a day u could very well have withdrawl syptoms from it. used daily it can be very dangerous and addicting. i dont much about a a lot of things but i do know a lot about ghb.


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Fonz

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posted April 13, 2001 10:03 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by spmffl:
dont use it!!! if u are planing to used ia few times a day u could very well have withdrawl syptoms from it. used daily it can be very dangerous and addicting. i dont much about a a lot of things but i do know a lot about ghb.


From your post, it sure doesn't look like you know
a lot about GHB.

And FOR THE LAST TIME, GHB is not addictive.

Lawnsaver, GHB does increase GH levels but
your body releases prolactin to counter this
rise. Using L-Dopa to counter the rise in
prolactin will help GHB's GH stimulating effects
last longer.
It also has to be dosed around the clock(2.0g
5 times a day) to get good fat loss results due
to the rise in GH.
I have posted an enormous amount of threads
on GHB, you guys should use search more
often.

Godspeed


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Zeke_B

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posted April 13, 2001 10:14 PM

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Fonz, good post, but while perhaps it is
not physically addictive (I really don't
know), ANYTHING that makes you feel good
can be psychologically addictive. It all
depends on your personality. More
importantly, GHB is illegal and many states
have specific laws against GHB that are
VERY harsh. The reason is that it is
used as a date rape drug.


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Fonz

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posted April 13, 2001 10:55 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke_B:
Fonz, good post, but while perhaps it is
not physically addictive (I really don't
know), ANYTHING that makes you feel good
can be psychologically addictive. It all
depends on your personality. More
importantly, GHB is illegal and many states
have specific laws against GHB that are
VERY harsh. The reason is that it is
used as a date rape drug.



I agree. I use GHB as an alcohol
substitute/sleep aid. And yes,
people can get psychologically
addicted to GHB. It pretty much
comes down to willpower.
I regard GHB as the recreational
drug of choice because it has
so few side-effects.(If compared
to X,K, etc....)
Bu the penalties in the states are
just unreal for this substance.
Class-I to all you newbies=
Beacoup trouble.

Godspeed


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lawnsaver

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posted April 14, 2001 04:56 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spmffl:
[b]dont use it!!! if u are planing to used ia few times a day u could very well have withdrawl syptoms from it. used daily it can be very dangerous and addicting. i dont much about a a lot of things but i do know a lot about ghb.

From your post, it sure doesn't look like you know
a lot about GHB.

And FOR THE LAST TIME, GHB is not addictive.

Lawnsaver, GHB does increase GH levels but
your body releases prolactin to counter this
rise. Using L-Dopa to counter the rise in
prolactin will help GHB's GH stimulating effects
last longer.
It also has to be dosed around the clock(2.0g
5 times a day) to get good fat loss results due
to the rise in GH.
I have posted an enormous amount of threads
on GHB, you guys should use search more
often.

Godspeed[/B][/QUOTE]

How can you take ghb and l-dopa thoughout the day? Its not feasable. You wont beable to function properly. Believe me I know the 411 on ghb. The amount of ghb and l-dopa that is needed throughout the day is high. Its not cost effective. And will effect your daily abilities.

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Fonz

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posted April 14, 2001 05:38 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by lawnsaver:
How can you take ghb and l-dopa thoughout the day? Its not feasable. You wont beable to function properly. Believe me I know the 411 on ghb. The amount of ghb and l-dopa that is needed throughout the day is high. Its not cost effective. And will effect your daily abilities.




I actually tried a 2 week experiment with GHB dosed
around the clock and it DID work. I used 2.0g
5 times a day.(no L-dopa though). And while the
first 3-4 days I was kind of feeling "bubbly" your
body adapts to the dosage and you do not feel
"bubbly" again thereafter at my specified
dosage. You do however get the GH-enhancing
effects.(which is great).
I call GHB GH's "pro-hormone" of sorts. It really
DOES work.

Godspeed


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despot_kungfoo

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posted April 14, 2001 07:35 AM

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can GHB stun your growth ?

//despot - just for the kicks

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4mike

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posted April 14, 2001 12:33 PM

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Hey SPMFFL,

What are your grounds for saying that GHB is very addictive and such negativity towards it? I respect your response, but I am curious on what are you basing your answer on? I've been taking it a few times a day for about 3 weeks and I'm curious what it's gonna be like when I stop. Thanks to the other bros as well for their informative input.


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4mike

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posted April 14, 2001 12:36 PM

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PS: If you say there are withdrawl symptoms how long until you start experiencing them? (Ie. 1 day, 1 week...after last day of dosing). Thanks


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solidspine

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posted April 14, 2001 01:14 PM

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It just makes you drunk, high, etc, I have tried a lot, too much, rides to hospital in ambulance. It is for recreation, not muscle, except very marginally, spend your money on real gear.
If you just want to get high G will do it but it won't help your lifting or training, may hurt, because your appitiete goes nuts.


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Iron Slinger

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posted April 14, 2001 01:28 PM

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I really dig the GHB precursors like Renewtrient, Rejoove, V35, there are a million. They make you feel like a million bucks. You sleep really well on the stuff, you can have unbelievable sex, you can party with it and you can train on it. It is a drug for all occasions. I like it very much. Before I was back on the gear, I used the stuff daily and gained 10lbs and got leaner in about 2 months. No too bad. The problem, however, is that it is very mentally addictive. You want to run for congress while your on it. It has the nasty ability to make you pass out unexpectedly. Those that pass out often convulse and look like they are dying. Many people that I know have wrecked their cars, ended up in hospitals, and ended up in jail because they do too much. My advice is this. Use only at home. Use only 1 ounce every 2 hours NO MORE!!! Do not,,,I repeat DO NOT drink alcohol while on it. Stay at home, do an ounce and get ready for the nastiest sex you have ever had.


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Goldensun7

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posted April 15, 2001 10:22 AM

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To the original question. GHB does increase the release of HGH. However, from what I have heard and my experience in using it, the side effects out weight the benefits. I did not feel stronger or gain from the use. I know several people who do take it several times a day. This is because they became addicted. The dose is very critical. You have to know how much to take for your body weight. It depends on how much it has been diluted, it can range from 1/2 a cc to 3 cc. Too much and you are out for the count or longer.


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