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Topic: My cycle of 300mg a week of primo so far ( 2 weeks in )
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Posts: 454 From:ma Registered: Feb 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 03:54 PM |
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This is is anyone is interested...any comments welcome4-3-01 300mg a week, 200mg every five days I am 5'8 190Lbs around 12-14% BF. I have done two cycles before. The last one I did was test and decca and I crashed do to the fact I started clomid to early. Lost all but 5 LBS this finneshed back in mid Oct. My LH and free test has been low do to the crash. I have built my free test back up to close to normal and my LH to normal with clomid. I decided to do somthing light so my body does not get shocked again. I figure try primo for 11 weeks then take another 4-6 months off and I will be ready for my ref,sus,eq cycle. My diet is staying prett much the same but I am upping the protein and lowering the carbs. the last couple of days have looked like this. Around 3,200 Total calories 315 Protein 130 Carbs and 100 Fat. I just want to gain some nice LBM and if I am lucky shed some fat. Also I just had blood work done and will post the results of my free test and LH when I get them back. I will get blood work when the cycle finneshes and post the results. This will give a basline if 300mg a week does surpress nat test levels Will keep everyone posted on my progress I am still in week 1 and will go for 11 4-8-01 Week 1 is over....My workouts have been good but no better than usuall. My diet has been very consistent with 300g of P 100 C and 100 F around 3,200 cals a day. My diet did slip a bit this weekend do to going away for 2 days but I don't think it is that big of a deal. As far as appearence and weight gain I have not noticed anything as of yet. I am hoping this week hints of gains will surface. I have heard it takes 2-3 weeks for primo gains to start being noticed so I am not to worried about anything yet. 4-10-01 Thought I would add this in, just took my third 200mg a every 5 days shot and that one burned like a BI*CH. I thought I was immune to the burn that everyone talks about but I guess not. It must happen on a random basis. I calculted my injection schedual using a 5 day half life and figured the primi should peak around the 5th injection or week 3(if I calculted wrong please coreect me) Looking forwerd to next week. Still have not got the blood work back but should be comming in the mail anyday. I will post it as soon as it comes in. Also I have noticed that every time I load the syringe I have over 2ml of primo, sometimes closer to 2 1/2. I have two types of amps I have the brown amps, blue dot green silk screen and the newer ones with the rings,blur dot and papper labels. Either one or both of these are overfilled. I will find out which type of amps are over filled my next injection. 4-11-01 Got the blood work in, Free test 8.6 (normal 16-41) LH 4.0 (Normal 1-5 ) My test is actually lower then it was 2 months ago. I think it is due to work stress it was almost normal..........At least my LH is normal it was 1.0 at one point.... 4-12-01 I just got a letter in the mail from myy doc concerning my test levels. He wrote me a script for androgel a while back to use if these levels came back lower then before. His plan is to put me on for three months and then retart me using clomid. So from tommorow on I will use the gell In conjunction with the primo. If TonyDelk's post are accurate the primo will have no effect on my blood work or HPTA. Hopefully my irritability and depresion will subside do the the fact they are symptoms to low test levels. I am led to believe my t-levels have always been low, I was on zoloft for a long time until the endoc found my t-levels low so he took me off to see if there was any corelation with the zoloft and my nat hormones. I was on zoloft before I ever experimented with geer. I figure the gell can't hurt and will only help with my well being and my doc's quest to get me levels back to the normal range. He is a firm believer that stress and anxiety ( hence the zoloft) is the main reason my levels are low. ex. dropped from 10.8 to 8.6 with no geer in my system and a very stressfull time at work. As far as gains, nothing almost done with week 2. Been training with the same intensity as usuall and my diet has been as mentioned above. On the upside 9 weeks to go and a little help from some test
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Posts: 394 From:staten island new york U.S.A Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 04:11 PM |
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the brown primo amps are overfilled by 1/4 of a cc.so two amps you get 2 and a half ccs
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Posts: 3228 From: Registered: Oct 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 04:18 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by ripped103: the brown primo amps are overfilled by 1/4 of a cc.so two amps you get 2 and a half ccs
lol Keep me updated Fozy
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Posts: 148 From:NEW YORK Registered: Apr 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 07:30 PM |
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Good update, i'm very interested in hearing more because I plan on doing primo soon too once I find a decent price. Good luck bro. ---PEACE---Mad Max
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Posts: 1562 From:Mt. Olympus Registered: Jun 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 07:51 PM |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FOZY: [B]This is is anyone is interested...any comments welcome
4-3-01 300mg a week, 200mg every five days I am 5'8 190Lbs around 12-14% BF. I have done two cycles before. The last one I did was test and decca and I crashed do to the fact I started clomid to early. Lost all but 5 LBS this finneshed back in mid Oct. My LH and free test has been low do to the crash. I have built my free test back up to close to normal and my LH to normal with clomid. I decided to do somthing light so my body does not get shocked again. I figure try primo for 11 weeks then take another 4-6 months off and I will be ready for my ref,sus,eq cycle. My diet is staying prett much the same but I am upping the protein and lowering the carbs. the last couple of days have looked like this. Around 3,200 Total calories 315 Protein 130 Carbs and 100 Fat. I just want to gain some nice LBM and if I am lucky shed some fat. Also I just had blood work done and will post the results of my free test and LH when I get them back. I will get blood work when the cycle finneshes and post the results. This will give a basline if 300mg a week does surpress nat test levels Will keep everyone posted on my progress I am still in week 1 and will go for 11 4-8-01 Week 1 is over....My workouts have been good but no better than usuall. My diet has been very consistent with 300g of P 100 C and 100 F around 3,200 cals a day. My diet did slip a bit this weekend do to going away for 2 days but I d
That debate is still going on at AF.
Wether or not 200/300mg of Primo blocks the up-regulation of the HPT axis and the LH function is still to be seen. I think 200mg won't but 300mg will. I'm researching this bercause I'm planning to bridge with 200mg primo for 8 weeks. Post your blood work at AF once you get the chance. I look forward to it.
Godspeed
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 276 From:US Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 08:03 PM |
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Fonz-Im coming off a t-50/winny/fina cycle and was considering bridgin with primo (i have 20 amps). should i start the bridge right away or wait a few weeks?
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Posts: 1562 From:Mt. Olympus Registered: Jun 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 08:36 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Suspension: Fonz-
Im coming off a t-50/winny/fina cycle and was considering bridgin with primo (i have 20 amps). should i start the bridge right away or wait a few weeks?
Both the Fina and the winny are fast-acting, so I woudn't wait, I'd start right away. I'm running Deca so I have to wait 2 weeks.
Godspeed
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Posts: 275 From:Newport Beach Registered: Mar 2001
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posted April 12, 2001 08:48 PM |
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FonzI�m coping your cycle, I think it looks great, I have done two cycles and will start my third ASAP You spelled out everything, I may just follow the same exact routine. Question I�m easily tempted to add sus or some other test for weeks 4-8 at about 500mg per week, I think that�s a conservative amount and will augment the primo gains. I have not tried primo, but know guys that swear buy it, It appears to take a little longer to grow, but they maintain, I have not tried it but will be soon. You say 300mg week or 200 every five days, I would go with 400mg a week, but I� still in the research phase of my cycle. What do you think of 400mg Primo per week.
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Posts: 1562 From:Mt. Olympus Registered: Jun 2000
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posted April 12, 2001 09:20 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by solidspine: Fonz
I�m coping your cycle, I think it looks great, I have done two cycles and will start my third ASAP
You spelled out everything, I may just follow the same exact routine.
Question I�m easily tempted to add sus or some other test for weeks 4-8 at about 500mg per week, I think that�s a conservative amount and will augment the primo gains.
I have not tried primo, but know guys that swear buy it, It appears to take a little longer to grow, but they maintain, I have not tried it but will be soon.
You say 300mg week or 200 every five days, I would go with 400mg a week, but I� still in the research phase of my cycle.
What do you think of 400mg Primo per week.
For growth, 400mg of Primo is optimum. You can actually go as high as 600mg/week without too many problems (well....cost.LOL). FOZY and me are using Primo at 200/300 for bridging purposes, since at this dosage it doesn't interfere with HPTA and LH recovery (supposedly anyways).
Hope that helps...
Godspeed
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Posts: 454 From:ma Registered: Feb 2000
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posted April 13, 2001 09:28 AM |
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Fonz, I will post the bllood work on AF but it is going to be skewed do to the Androgell. Just rubbed this shit all over my arm this morning and it dried out in like 5 minutes, not as bad as I thougt it would be. I feel like an idiot being 25 and going to CVS to pick up my androgell ......As far as HPTA Tonydelk posted he had blood work done up to 400mg and had blood work which showed no surpression. Mabey I misinterperted the post I will go over there in a bit and try to find it I figure do what the doc sais I will let him deel with restoring my nat test levels. Weird thing is my LH is easy to bring up but my free test is a PAIN IN THE ASS..... I will post on AF and here the rest of my progress.... Iron , no prob in keeping you updated. Withought your help I would have never even started the primo...Thanks foz
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Posts: 114 From:VAL HALA :) Registered: Apr 2001
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posted April 13, 2001 10:03 AM |
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GOOD UPDATE...THANKS... ------------------ E-mail me for (HELP) with ANYTHING im here
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Posts: 48 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted April 13, 2001 11:06 AM |
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keep us updated do alot of medications supress natural test.? Peace BOXEr10
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Posts: 19 From:the heavens up above Registered: Mar 2001
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posted April 13, 2001 01:30 PM |
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hey fonz. i just finished coming off of 12 weeks of eq. i will start primo starting next week and i will run 200mgs a week for 3 weeks. i know its not a lot im just doing it because its left over. would you recommend that i start the clomid with the primo or when else. thanks bro. i just dont wanna crash.
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Posts: 454 From:ma Registered: Feb 2000
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posted April 13, 2001 01:34 PM |
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as far as steroids goes the only ones that are RUMORED no to shut you down are anavar and primobolan. Thats why I chose primo this time around I did not anticipate the script for the gell but if it will make my low T-level symptoms subcide I am gald I got it....
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